Re: https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/10000/team-battleground-news-and-list-of-restrictions

Rewards listed now are a joke. If you want teams to spend gems on an event like this you really should do better. Currently there are only 13 teams 'qualified' for tier 1, where you can get a diamond relic, the one thing that made this event worth spending on.

PainDa, Untamable, Vortigern, United Assassins, Prou!!, Australia Rocks, et cetera (tier 2 teams), really don't give a hoot about a chance of obtaining a golden relic chest. At least not when it comes at great expense. They get plenty of these things for free in Mazes and PVP rewards.

There is no carrot here, please reconsider.

Completely agree.
I would rather do 1 pvp fight every two weeks than spend gems for the same reward.

As one of the AR leads I can confirm that we wouldn't care about the golden relic too much, unless the opponent is easy, and I completely agree, these rewards are really bad... I would suggest lowering the team score so tier 1 is say 175k, tier 2 125k etc. And give 2 diamonds for tier 1, 1 diamond for tier 2 etc. (I even got a member who asked me right now if we should create a team right before the BGs and move to the VIP cell tier if these rewards don't improve)

Or maybe, add Nemesis Cells chests to the top 2 tiers over and above the current rewards . That might make the event worth some serious thought and investment...

I feel like that every tier should have access to talany, and not just tier 1 through 3. For with the anual VIP breeding event there isn't a need for 10-60 vip cells at random at all.

@MonstrousManiac i agree, if talany is an exclusive to BG then it should be available to all tiers

The effort involved seems to out weigh these rewards for sure. I agree with the top post.

too much criticism in this topic, I think it should be locked

@Jimmy I love well founded criticism so I see absolutely no reason

I see new Nemesis dungeons just arrived. Rewards are far better than the rewards for Team Battle Grounds (diamond relic, elementium, sack of orbs). And people can play it for free. Most players in 'tier 1' teams can complete it without any cost. A healthy bunch in 'tier 2' teams as well. Probably some players in 'tier 3' teams even.

See how disproportionate this is?

@Ekto-Gamat said in Feedback: Battlegrounds Rewards:

Most players in 'tier 1' teams can complete it without any cost. A healthy bunch in 'tier 2' teams as well. Probably some players in 'tier 3' teams even.

I think that many with lower ranked Nemesis will struggle as you now need an internet connection to play the Dungeon. Last time I had to replay some nodes a dozen or more times to get through....

....whilst I can understand why they did it, I will take A LOT of fun out of it. All it needs is one chance special and the challenge goes down the drain. Looks like SP is wrecking more fun for many players. I was always looking forward to this super hard dungeons

@David-ML Well, I don't think SP ever intended it to be possible to get unlimited retries.

Would be nice to have one retry for every node though.

@Ekto-Gamat yes the I infinite retry was bad, but with teammates playing on the road and seeing their best monsters die in a legit disconnect due to a poor WiFi signal, I would strongly urge SP to allow one disconnect per dungeon, with a dialog saying to make sure they have a strong signal when playing this dungeon

@Ekto-Gamat I can see a case for “unlimited” tries though. With the difficulty of the dungeon if you don’t have high ranked Nemesis you are only going so far no matter how many times you do a node.
Even with high level monsters the challenge nodes are always oddball and sometimes you need to change runes or relics to get past them and you’re going into the fight blind.
I say this from experience since I got nowhere in the VIP survival dungeon with 115 vip’s And no amount of retries was gonna help.

Let's be honest , without retries it's not realistic, maybe a 5% of whoever has 130 good nemesis will be lucky enough not to miss and not to get controlled by the enemy team....our nemesis on defense are not as "bulkwark " as the others , i miss effects on them more than half the time on attack while the other team rarely misses any effects on mine so ..while i do understand and agree this dungeon needs to be difficult, seems it's reached impossibly difficult level ...as for " legit disconnect due to a poor wifi"...right! , no, it's the game crashing not the wifi

I made it through losing one monster on about node 20 or so due to the random start effect. The others were ok using Samuel extra turn move with a strong hitter.

i made it to 46% where Talos gave me his special in the face killing 2/3 of my monsters good bye dungeon ...pffff..i'm curious tho' how many in SP team managed to finish this dungeon ...i invite them to play the dungeon and show us their progress want to learn from the best

@testcyp said in Feedback: Battlegrounds Rewards:

@Ekto-Gamat I can see a case for “unlimited” tries though. With the difficulty of the dungeon if you don’t have high ranked Nemesis you are only going so far no matter how many times you do a node.

I suppose that is the idea though, no matter how annoying it may be.

For the record: I never finished the dungeon myself. Did not use any 'retries', but my only realistic chance of doing that successfully is putting on a triple strength Talos and 6 teamlife holders and wait until he specials at the 40th try.

@Alex-Pisi I'm in the same pinch as you, mate, it's the exact same situation for me, except I also got hit by a special from the Faraday on that node

To be back on topic, My team wont care about next bg with these rewards and our 178k team score. My team love the new bg event much more then races or any other event but with these ridiculus rewards it aint worth a single gem or even effort as the motivation drops flat dead for a gold relic and 20 elimentium.

@joohnzy yep, SP have shot themselves into the foot with this one. This will be a complete non-event as nobody can get excited about BG Epic Failure 3.0 anymore....

.... which is a pity as the basic premise of the event is pretty awesome

It may be all criticism but it does seem fair.
Last bg our leads put in an amazing effort and we qualified but lost. We could have predicted we would lose and gave a strong effort anyway. However as mentioned, if the rewards seem too low then the effort next time will also be suitably lower.
As with other teams comments, we also like the idea very much.

So my Theory is that tbg will be more frequently in future when all bugs are out and its no longer beta, I personally like that so winnings should be more balanced. but if thats the idea the recovery of monsters should be like in war or to make it slightly harder like survival dungeon also for the attack side. The gem price for recovery is still way to high

@Marianne-van-Es said in Feedback: Battlegrounds Rewards:

So my Theory is that tbg will be more frequently in future when all bugs are out and its no longer beta, I personally like that so winnings should be more balanced. but if thats the idea the recovery of monsters should be like in war or to make it slightly harder like survival dungeon also for the attack side. The gem price for recovery is still way to high

Exactly this. If SP is afraid diamond relics will become too easily available, then fine, lower the rewards. But also make it (far) more easy-to-play.

We're ignoring this one. It'll be back to back with another race. Gem fest ahoy. Probably set up our defenses with a heap of trash and see how our opponents get on but we won't be spending gems to refresh monsters. You could easily drop 200 gems for silver relics and a handful of elementium. No chance

You know, may the rewards be as they are, but boosts to hatching, extracting and crafting in conjunction with a Legendary Overlords for a week is worth a thumbs up. I'll be able to catch up with hatching my legendaries and epics, and mayhaps get a rank 1 Oikawa for free. (I do have 15-20 legendary eggs in storage, together with the points from ranking up I should crack 1500 points.)

I see the rewards have been updated. Thanks, @Fox @Tyroz

I also see that a well known top 10 team, which I will call Orchestra of Annihilation since I cannot mention their real name, has gone to a Team Battlegrounds team. Fortunately their score isn't above 150.000 so they drop to tier 3. For a next edition however, if they have gained enough war coins, they probably will cross that barrier.

Apparently calling SP greedy is cool, but messing up the rankings, stomping on lower teams and stealing from them is not greedy at all.

@Ekto-Gamat and guess who we just matched! SoD TBR - or should I call them OoA TBR

Edit: Fortunately in Team Wars, not in BG!