I was just going to post this in the feedback thread just to find it closed. And since everybody has always been talking about 'The Big Nerf' but completely overlooked and ignored the 'The Big Boost', I decided to make a new thread:

The awakening of Mount Doom: Mountain the new trait to be feared!!!

So Mountain is now also resisting the Mega versions of stun/freeze and possession will get a 'recently possessed', so all you can do is possess for one, or if you are lucky and have the right monster, for two turns. Then you just have to wear whatever comes: Global Stomp - arrgh! Oh and of course, Ouros and Igursus have these wonderful self buffs which they like to do when possessed. I'm looking forward to Igursus doing Vesuvius when possessed to then acquire recently possessed and ouch....

....I'd be ok with this if there wouldn't be two and a half million Lvl 130 Igursuses out there who now get the Mega-buff and will cause mayhem. They were bad enough as they were, but now? So much for balancing the game. A smart move would actually be to change the trait of Igursus to something else. Now that would indeed help to balance. And before players hack me to bits for suggesting such an outrage, I levelled my Igursus the hard way with LOTS of gems. I didn't get mine for next to nothing like everybody else and I would definitely be ok with this for the sake of more balanced wars!!!

@David-ML Next to nothing is very harsh I believe it was either 40/50 laps to get lvl 5 and as u know they don’t come cheap, and don’t give sp anymore ideas to wreck the game there doing a good enough job of that.

@callumarachnoid 36 laps and back then there weren't as many epic nodes, so 300-400 gems each for a Lvl 130 if the entire team contributed. I paid nearly 2000 gems for a Lvl 120. I would be more than happy to have him nerfed for the sake of more balanced team wars!!!

When these changes were just introduced I was joking around saying ouros will become the meta again, but igursus is a big problem like this, and also cryotan, with his ultimate and all his other deadly skills which never got to really shine because of possession. Mountains get a huge boost because of this change, and it's not balancing. Imagine seeing that 130 igursus with a high level life rune and a good armor relic, and not being able to remove positive effects, that's definitely not balance...

People have mentioned it.
And look, now there even are two threads about it (you were first )

These mountains can still be blinded and dazed. It's how they were fought in the old days before Brontes and if possession wasn't an option. And yep, people were still "stomped" to death, anyway. Igursus probably is the least of this renewed problem. Can take a few punches from him, but it's difficult to protect against instant death other than with a trait.

Captain Copperbeard and Goran get a nice little boost as well.

Already got Cryotan PTSD, don't need more of it. Also did a post on mountain being hard to deal with, but this was a way better post on the topic, gj!

There are still a number of deny options.
Use Timerion with Stop Time and Cooldowns Activated.
Use the other monsters that can activate cooldowns. (Does anyone have a list of those?)
Use monsters that give Evasion (Nishants BG and Gakora).
Use total blind.
Use Stamina draining.
Not sure if it will be possible to hack a monster that is immune to possession.

The gist of it is to use a primary denier like Baba Yaga, and a secondary denier as support with 3 team speed.

But yes, dealing with those lvl130 Igursus will become a pain in the behind.

@Frunobulax Most seasoned players know how to deal with them, but your options may be severely limited depending on the combination of restrictions and available monsters in your roster. It has been tough before to fight 25+ bases with Lvl 130 Igursuses - this has now become a whole lot harder!!!

Oh and the artifacts are overpowered cause the can’t be controlled,and the warmasters are overpowered because they have crazy traits, and the nemisis are overpowered because of there skills, wow some people on here whining for no reason, let’s just nerf all the monsters and just fight with commons that will make the game so much better.

@David-ML I do agree with you about the self buffs. Maybe changing the trait of these monsters isn't really necessary. What needs to be done is changing the AI to prevent them from constantly using these skills. If even now, before the upcoming changes, this behavior makes the only strong control skill that can be used against them practically useless and could even be considered a regular turn for them, what will happen now that you won't be able to keep these monsters "under control" until you've managed to clear the way and can finally focus on them. I'm used to keep them possessed and spam torture effects on them to drop their up as much as possible but now that they will get on the loose things will definitely be complicated. My Igursus, personally, is just 120 and only because I spent my money on eggs and cells to rank him up. Didn't do the same with Cryotan because I honestly don't like this monster and after years playing this game I only got Ours a couple of months ago and haven't even started working on him because I'm busy ranking my core of monsters to 5. and in this case it would be starting from zero. One monster with this specific trait that unlike the last 3 makes me really curious is Copperbeard thought. I wonder how much of a game changer he will turn out to be.

On a side note, and considering that these changes, at least me, have a clear reason, wouldn't it have been easier to just go ahead and nerf, considerably nerf, the monster where you guys just went out of hand?

Now here's my suggestion. Admit that you released a monster that completely destroyed any existing balance on the game. Assume your losses, recall the monster and reimburse players who acquired it with the heroic orbs used to get it, the gems most likely used for things like opening closed rune slots and to speed up the ranking up in the lab and sure why not the food spent to get it to the level each monster has. And with this done, leave the game exactly as it is.

It's October 8th and I still could happily megastun an Igursus one hour ago.

@Carlos, when are these changes going live?

Update must be live, since Igursus just blocked megastun. Fear the mountain!