This is not a good time for this bug because it's rage wars and people are left out of wars, losing a lot of war coins, even if the team has a full 30.

War are being generated where teams are unmatched to the point where one cannot find any to fight. My team is angry and discouraged. Doesn't bode well for for game.

This has been around for quite long, was introduced as an 'enhancement' that two teams with different number of players can match up, to avoid long searching time.

Same with us, we had a full 30 for war and when we matched we got matched 24v24 so 6 of our members had to sit out... not a very logical match

Because of new leagues the matchmaking looks first at close match before matching players. Concerns about this has been shared today I will adress it again

@Marianne-van-Es
if it looks at close match first its seriously bugged!
we have 1 member with 1 lvl 100 monster, im ranked 4th on our side with lvl 80-70-70, i had to drop down to their rank 18 to find a target with less than 2 level 100 monsters.....
their top 4 all have level 115 monsters
my daughter is ranked 13 on our side with level 40-40-20, they have guys with 2 level 100 monsters between rank 29 and 24, there is not a single target our rank 13 even has a chance against....
how are we supposed to do anything in this war?

Today there is going to be an answer about our feedback on new teamwars, specially about the problem of benched players

@Marianne-van-Es
the topic i posted was not about benched players
i dont like that but not a big issue
the bug is that it matches a low level team against a very high level team

the team we are up against have level 100 monsters all the way down to their rank 26
meanwhile only our rank 1 has 1!!! level 100 monster where their rank 1-4 all have level 115's
how are we going to compete against that
only our top 5 players will be able to find any targets at all they can kill, so the other 25 are just going to twiddle their thumbs?
im ranked 4th on our side, and i doubt i can find 10 targets i can win against, even if i go all the way down and fight their rank 20-30!!!!!!

@Donlep my answer was not directly to you but more to this thread.
hope your match is an exception and wont be happening again can you dm me your team name so I can give the info to the devs

@SkeelMaster said in Wars are matching teams of 30 with teams of 26-29:

This has been around for quite long, was introduced as an 'enhancement' that two teams with different number of players can match up, to avoid long searching time.

This has not been around for a while. If your team had a multiple of 5, no one would be left out.

But as Marianne has pointed out, this is apparently a part of the upcoming war changes, not actually a bug.

@Marianne-van-Es: can you delete my double posting https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/10625/team-wars-matchmaking?

@SkeelMaster said in Wars are matching teams of 30 with teams of 26-29:

This has been around for quite long, was introduced as an 'enhancement' that two teams with different number of players can match up, to avoid long searching time.

I prefer "all members can participate" over "avoid long searching time".
The effective "search time" for our lower level team members might last days!

The "multiple of five" matchmaking rule was a real enhancement, but not freezing members of a completely active team.

@Marianne-van-Es:

"Monster Mercs", 08-Nov-2018, around 17h00 GMT, team of 30 players matched with "Good Gods", 28 members.

@Donlep said in Wars are matching teams of 30 with teams of 26-29:

the topic i posted was not about benched players
i dont like that but not a big issue

100% disagreement! Lower level players being cut-off from team wars has a huge impact on them.

(Who cares, if every now-and-then, your team gets smashed?)

@Boris said in Wars are matching teams of 30 with teams of 26-29:

But as Marianne has pointed out, this is apparently a part of the upcoming war changes, not actually a bug.

If this is not a bug but intentional change, then it is a very serious design flaw!

@Stephan-Meier sure
Its been reported as a huge concern of players and again they are working on it to change this I had the expectation that this would have been addressed yesterday by SP but... So high hopes for today

Hi everyone,

The team is aware and already planning some changes that should be live early next week. This should help teams with a similar number of teammates to match.

@Brynn This shouldn't happen. Please, wait until next week when we launch the team leagues. I hope it will fix it.

@Fox said in Wars are matching teams of 30 with teams of 26-29:

Hi everyone,

The team is aware and already planning some changes that should be live early next week. This should help teams with a similar number of teammates to match.

@Brynn This shouldn't happen. Please, wait until next week when we launch the team leagues. I hope it will fix it.

Next week? I hope it will be fixed?
Is SP and its developers aware that this newer matchmaking behavior potentially affects over 13% of the ML players in a very negative way for one week?

https://socialpoint.helpshift.com/a/monster-legends-mobile/?s=updates&f=team-wars-recent-matchmaking-behaviours&l=en

Well, we searched for about 2 seconds to match a team with 28 players, which I will call Right Foot of Satan for anonymity, while we were at 30.

A team that chooses to search at 28 should match a team with 25 so that THEY can have players in observer mode, instead of the other way around.

@Boris Our matchmaking has been ridiculous the last two Wars. The last War, our Team kept pushing because our Team "rallies" when we get our lower levels "picked off". We beat them 438-334. We had been down as much as 100 points. It looks like from the War Log, they ran all our lower Bases out of War Coins with their highest monsters then their poor lower level bases had nowhere to attack. Our "reward" was a Team with Level 100s on every Base, ranked 750 places above us!

@Marianne-van-Es said in Wars are matching teams of 30 with teams of 26-29:

https://socialpoint.helpshift.com/a/monster-legends-mobile/?s=updates&f=team-wars-recent-matchmaking-behaviours&l=en

Not good enough.

• As (co-)lead, I should be given the choice between
  o fast matching
  o all members participate
• I also need to know the exact time when the system will consider to match with a team of lesser members, not only "for the first hours".
• And I like to have a confirmation, that cancellation of matchmaking will reset the "rolling time".

BTW: the issue is worse than I realized at first. Following several reports in the FB groups, team are "loosing" more than 4 members at max; in our case 8 players are benched (which is approx. 25% of the team).

@Stephan-Meier I agree, just wanted to inform you

Do we have ETA on a Fix? These matchup with much stronger teams are making our stronger team players leave! We haven’t been able pair up with a fair team in a long time! This horrible!

@andrew-chen we are now in beta testing the new league system so all is in testing phase. You can place feedback here whenever you want

@boris changed the postname so we can gather info here dont eant multiple threads about this hope you dont mind

We have been trying to match for a war with 29 members for over 12 hours now and we are about 120 in ranking..... this is getting quite pathetic, weve never had to wait this long for a match up...

@marianne-van-es ok noted. But praying for fairer pairing.

@andrew-chen hoping with you

Adding my experience - last war, my team was way overmatched, lost something like 260-50. The war before that, we pitched a shutout. The other team got zero coins. Today, a different and equally frustrating problem - been trying to start a war for 7.5 hours now. Spinning and spinning. Canceled twice, waited, restarted. Nothing.

@ed-poole dont cancel only if you are afraid timing will be bad if you cancel it start fresh so it doesnt make it quicker let it role

@marianne-van-es
Thanks, that’s what I usually do, but after 4 hours... never had it go longer than 90 minutes over the last year

@ed-poole what happen in the end? My team face the same problem and it has been nearly 24 hour (12 hour from the last restart matchmaking)