Yet again, what was once my favorite event (72-hour challenge) is getting even harder. Based on a YouTube video, I can see that it will take a whopping 35,000 tokens to flip all of the cards! Previously, the hardest option would take about 24,000 coins to complete. That's an increase of nearly 50%!

If the amount of coins I earned didn't progressively decrease, it might be attainable, but now there's no chance of me getting the monster, even with 3.6 billion gold and the food guardian enabled. Here's what I've experienced from collecting black lotus root with the food guardian enabled (I'm level 108, btw):

• First food collection: ~1500 coins
• Second food collection: ~750 coins
• Third food collection: ~500 coins
• Currently collecting (on my 9th card): ~300 coins

This rate will continue to drop as the card cost continues to increase. At this rate I'll be lucky if I am able to flip even 5 more cards.

This sucks.

the top reward Rogicon 2 star can drop now before last 3 cards this means your next card could be the horse but if it isnt you can get:

at this moment you have somewhat less than 60 hour left in that time I think you can get to the 17th card this means you get 90 cells if you dont have Rognicon by then, I know it isnt a 2 star Legendary but still 90 cells plus a rune and a gold relic chest isnt to bad In my opinion.
please do also the other collections who knows you get lucky and have him soon I wish you the best of luck

No way I'll get 17 cards. The last 3 cards are 4000, 5000, and 6000 coins.

@trogdor I dont know what is possible and what isnt I know that breeding gives a lot too but anyway the change you get him on next turn is there.
Btw I liked the pvp one but many didnt like that so we all have things we like and we dont like

Yes, I'm aware that I can get him on the next turn, but that has never worked out for me. I did the math, and I still need ~29,500 coins to flip the last card.

It is a complete joke no one over level 100 will get 17 cards. It is totally skewed in favour of lower level players. not with out spending heaps.

Have to apologize to OP and thank him because I didnt realize how hopeless this 72h really is the best we can can get with a lot of work is a level 4 rune ( I get a 5 rune every week in rune lords and if i'm unlucky i can turn it into a lvl 4 strength) and 40 Quixote cells ( i can give away or hold on to until). The only small hope we (100+) have is to get the monster before time runs out

....yep, total waste of time. With the old one you could at least hope to get a few gems while flipping a few cards and maybe some useful cells and relic chests. This gives next to nothing

I don't know but i got my rocigon on my 4th card xd.

@bestmanbest congrats

Update...my collection rate has dropped to 260 coins per hour for the food collection (all black lotus root with food guardian). In 21 hours my food guardian will end, so that will cut in half. I am working on the 11th card @1747 coins. I'll be lucky if I can flip 2 or 3 more cards before this event ends.

@bestmanbest Same here but, I agree with the OP about the huge cost of flipping these cards (I'm level 102). If not for great luck on my behalf, I'd be looking at a level IV rune and 40 quixote cells (aka - a waste of time/effort).

I greatly preferred the pvp-based version of the game - at least I could reliably calculate how many coins I'd be getting and could strategize if I needed to spend a few gems for an extra pvp match here and there.

I was a relative late comer to the game and have worked to keep my level low(ish) for certain events similar to this one.

At level 66, with about 250M spent on food I will have completed all three rounds of Rocigon. On the first two rounds I got him in the last card, and on the last round 3rd to last. So while I personally liked the event, it was by virtue of my level. The flip side is that he is lower rank (1 vs 2).

I only share to offer a counterpoint experience.

Also - the coins you get and diminishing returns reset on each round from the looks of it.

Coinage, I remember when my level was in the 60s and 70s...I got lots of good monsters ranked up because of the 72 hour challenge. All I had to do was plan ahead and save up enough gold for the event. Once you get up to level 90 or 100 this event becomes basically impossible unless you get lucky with a card flip.

In comparison to your experience, I've already spent 1 Billion gold on food and I've only been able to flip 11 cards total.

@fffssdfqrw I personally hated the PVP version of this event. The level I was at for PVP meant I could only win revenge matches, and there weren't enough of those for me to earn a monster. I had a handful of PVP losses as well, which meant I wasn't earning any coins in those situations. The bad thing about the PVP version is people were encouraged to drop to a lower level PVP league so they could win more of their matches...in general this type of strategy shouldn't be encouraged/rewarded.

@coinage 3 r1 rogicon + strength IV + Speed VI + 320 Quixote cells + 4 gold relic chests vs a change on a r2 Rogicon + strength IV + 40 cells....

@trogdor I understand your point, fair enough. I still prefer the PvP system - but that's my opinion. For a 2-star Muerte, I was perfectly fine with setting my PvP defense to 1 monster, dropping to a lower level and easily winning all revenges, then spending a few gems for extra revenges - ultimately getting Muerte on the very last card (ofc ha). After that I rose back up in trophies to a league that I normally end up in.

My main beef is a lower level player (as seen in this thread) finishing the Rogicon board 3 full times - while higher level players won't even finish it once. That's ridiculous - so give me the more fair PvP version please.

@marianne-van-es Absolutely, it was a great event for me. Keeping my level low has been a pain - I get more food from races than I do from growing it, and obviously pretty light island progress - but this is the trade off. Ideally the system would be balanced out somewhat and not encourage what I’ve done, which is both arbitrary and slows down my progress somewhat by restricting food growth and use, and thus monster levels.

Trying to look at it objectively, I can understand this in terms of an event targeted specifically at lower level players who have saved up resources. Eventually enough events like these would lead to increased monster count and player level, at which phase in the game other events like team battlegrounds should be the big draw. It would be nice if the cliff wasn’t so great at higher levels though - when you see the sale for 5k coins asking you how many cards you can flip for $10 USD and the answer is “almost 1” it will turn some off to the event.

Rhetorically, what’s the harm if a player, of any level, gets a single r1 or r2 decent but not top line legendary out of the event by collecting frequently throughout the event? If the goal is to promote spending that will happen - to go for #2 or #3, to get #1 if they didn’t log in enough, cells to rank them up, through unlocking rune slots, buying runes or relics, etc.

I used all my gold and have not gotten rocigon. Im pretty sad as i have only have 1 rank 1 light monster for the elvira dungeon which is totally unfair

Did they just ditched the multiple events, and now we can only do one? Because (obviously) it's impossible to get 34 coins with a maximum of 17 coins ...
And yeah, totally impossible event in any way.

Edit: I realized, that there is a second round of this "event" ...
Wow, what a "great" design ...
50% increase in prices and bad rewards ...

@coinage im not against that but if SP wants to keep it like this throw it out fof high levels. Sure you can say ignore but in the former setup you had use for the coins some extra cells gems chests now thats gone too. Not getting excited about a l4 strength rune

Another update...it has just gotten to the point of being completely ridiculous. I'm been growing lotus root for 2 days with food guardian, and I have 5 cards remaining. My food guardian has ended and because of all the experience from growing food I'm now at level 110. I just collected Lotus Root from my 14 farms and got 35 coins.....35!!!!

I've calculated that I need 20,000 more coins to get the monster. At this rate, I'll only need another 500+ hours!!!

So I've gone from 1500 coins collected from food in the first hour, and in the 52nd hour I'm now collecting 35 coins each hour. Hopefully the SP developers can see how absolutely ridiculous this is and will do something about it. It has to be the most frustrating event in the entire game.

@marianne-van-es Agreed.

Very complicated for me this time, no chance of getting Rocigon, I'm level 122, I saw people around level 50 being able to do the 3 laps, still don't get why players over level 100 are punished this hard.

So these 72 hour challenges have gone from bad to WORSE, instead of getting resources with the card spins all I got were 9 tokens that will not net me anything. I am getting real disgusted with this game. Even my low level gaming accounts did not do much better.

So im a lvl 76 was just barely able to grab 10 coins couldnt get rocigon 72 hr event i dont think ill event try anymore to be brutally honest, im done with them

So, my last post saying that I'll uninstall the game got censored. Nice.

Good bye, everybody, until this one is deleted too. This is a casino that bloats "money, money, money" and no longer a game.

@frunobulax it wasnt deleted for that reason but because of how you worded some things I get anger and frustration but please be civil

@kayno125 at your level you could have done 2 rounds if you had saved enough gold and had a guardian at max

I see people threatening to uninstall the game and leave. If that is the case, how come my PVP opponents are not getting weaker? If all the higher levels have left, it should be easier for everyone that is left, right?

As a high-lvl player, I also see this 72-hr challenge almost impossible to get rewards unless I get lucky flipping the cards and get the monster before the last card, but this time was also about some other rewards for collecting windmill coins which I think made it even harder for us (speaking for high lvl players) . I know this challenge is aimed mostly for low and mid lvl players in order to grow but I think it's not fair for high lvl players who also want to rank up their monsters which helps a lot for example in the battleground event. There has to be balance and unfortunately I don't see it. Would be great to see an improvement on this next time

I'm curious too, is this by designed to NOT let high level players to participate this event?

@Fox could you shed some light on this?

so i played my niece's account lvl @ 30+ish and got enough cells for 3 quixotes , all 3 rounds rocigons ( is that 6 legendary monsters ?! ) aaaand on my account lvl 150 i got 40 quixote cells and a lvl 4 rune ....something smells different here

Final update from me...I was not able to get Rocigon and still had 4 cards left. Toward the end of the event when I knew I couldn't get any more cards, I switched to growing Rainbow Snow Peas instead of Black Lotus Root, and I was getting zero monster coins from food after I made this change.

When @Fox first announced the changes to this event to introduce the "reverse progressive" (i.e. regressive) coin collection, he provided the following explanation:

• "The main issue we faced with Challenge coins generation was that some players managed to optimize their resource generation to a point where the balancing for their level was too easy, generating enough coins to complete the event many times.
  Our aim is that all players can collect enough coins to obtain a legendary monster in the Challenge, but we would like to avoid such disparities in balancing.
  We have introduced a system that affects coins generation based on the amount of coins collected so far, with this we expect top coin collectors to have a similar output to players with harder balancings."

It's very clear at this point that this reverse progressive collection did not address any of these issues or achieve any of the intended goals:

• Lower level players continue to complete the event many times.
• Not all players can collect enough coins to obtain a legendary monster.
• They haven't avoided the disparities in balancing.

They really need to go back to the drawing board on this one.

@trogdor I agree and already given the feedback to SP around the time I apologized to you because I realized it was hopeless for 100+ players

If this event has been revised so that players at every level have an opportunity to get the monster then it would be appreciated if SP directly or through its representatives could advise the community on how exactly high level players need to do this.

In a 72 hour period what series of in game tasks must we perform? This is I believe a very simple question but one I feel honestly doesn't have an answer.

It is clear that I nor anyone else has found a formula that works for high level players. It continues to be a source of frustration every time the event occurs.

@wazdog The series of actions you need to perform are clear and are the same for all levels, what is different is the size of the reward for each action, exagerated example (cause I don't remember the actual ammounts): on a level 40 account you get like 2500 maze coins for food collection while on a 110+ account you get like 150.

@Francisco-Franceschi perhaps I could have worded it better. I know what actions I need to perform to be get the coins.
What I would like to know from SP is how I can do them within a 72 hour time frame to get enough to get the reward? The answer is that we can't get enough nor could SP give us an explanation as to how to do it so the event needs to be reworked to be fair for all or retired.