Unless SP plans to significantly drop chest prices, this is - at minimum - an 85% reduction in rewards (at least for the upper tier). More, if you consider the RNG factor of not getting what you want from the corresponding chests.

SP's done some good stuff recently, but this is the polar opposite of what we want to see.

I am surprised that nobody wrote in this thread, maybe because people start to care less and less and we realized that any dollar spent in this game is totally wasted eith this company running it.

The nerf of rewards is huge, why doing an effort to prepare this failure when you just get these rewards + the secretly rigged chest system we all know, ending in a relic that nobody wants probably (after months of saving points)

This is the only truly “Insane” thing I have seen since black friday events started.

It was to be expected. Since it is a 'free' event now, rewards have been adjusted accordingly.

While I agree with @Ekto-Gamat that I did expect some sort of reward drop, this is a bit way too much, I think. Adding a couple of Gold relic chests for the winner, and one for the second place, or some amount of elementium alongside the War Medals would've been a nice middle ground...

@johnml said in New TB rewards... seriously?:

While I agree with @Ekto-Gamat that I did expect some sort of reward drop, this is a bit way too much, I think. Adding a couple of Gold relic chests for the winner, and one for the second place, or some amount of elementium alongside the War Medals would've been a nice middle ground...

Or some Talany cells.

the feedback will be forwarded

@jacinto said in New TB rewards... seriously?:

I am surprised that nobody wrote in this thread, maybe because people start to care less and less and we realized that any dollar spent in this game is totally wasted eith this company running it.

This is so true (at least for me) it hurts. On the other hand, I'm glad if this is what's happening because it seems that unless majority of players stops doing something out of misery SP can't notice anything.

WARNING: long rant about TB and the game in general.

I’m quite interested in SP logic here. You create an event where you basically push players to obtain and rank as many monsters as possible. You don’t give additional habitats though (ok, that’s not related)

This event is seriously bugged but you can’t do anything about it especially since you run it during weekends when you don’t work (???)

So ok you decide to block people from spending gems to make it look better and push people to buy even more monsters to benefit in the long run but don’t fix the bugs, so it’s even worse because now when players lose their attack monsters due to bugs they can't use them for good.

Then people start to fill up their habitats/vaults and you’re like “ok now it’s time to ensure that rewards are so bad you don’t need to do any of these things above.”

So why do I need to prepare for TB? It takes a lot of strategy and planning to win vs equal opponent (if matchmaking RNG actually gives us equal opponent huh)

On top of that, these chests that you are supposed to spend medals on are still BS. I don’t want to gamble on which monster I get from a chest I ground several months for. We still don't know which relics we can get from team shop dia relic chest.

Hard investing in anything for the sake of TB just makes no sense now with these rewards. This includes both buying/ranking monsters, additional runes, and investing time and effort in strategy during this event. So I guess SP just outplayed themselves here if their main goal was to push us to get and rank more stuff.

On the other hand, even these rewards are ok if you don’t need to do anything to obtain them, if we see this event as “collect rng amount of medals each month for doing nothing.” It's still sad in terms of fun this game brings. I like TB, both preparation and attack day, you were heavily rewarded for team play and strategy. It was fun and engaging.
Problem is even with these rewards you still need to prepare and divide your monsters into groups if you want to compete and get that competitive drive. Going full ape mode on such event feels bad and just turns it into another event you don’t notice.

It feels like SP just don't want to invest time and energy to actually notice what is going on with the game. ML is just one of games SP has after all. I guess they don’t have enough motivation for that, even with all people spending, with all feedback they get. I can’t explain it otherwise. All the bugs/typos/inconsistencies this game has are still here, some of each exists for years. Usually SP doesn't notice imbalance in this game unless situation is so bad as current pvp, for example.

Even in pvp case by the way. How long this system is live? About a year? A year of nagging and complains about this system. SP starts to tweak the system to favor players only after L4 disappeared for almost 2 seasons and L3 got in danger as well. Before that SP were just experimenting with how to make pvp harder for players until enough players stopped doing pvp for them to notice.

It is really hard to recruit new players for a team in top 50 by the way. Why? There are not enough players at this level. They are either too strong because they endured everything for several years and kept motivation to play or they are too low because they started not so long ago and didn’t face the fact that to continue growing your account you either need to make this game your second job or invest some serious amount of cash (or both) while being rewarded as usual. It’s funny that SP might actually increase both revenue and playerbase if they make rewards meaningful across the board but they will never do that in fear of losing what they have (read it as elite players cashing in for every update). And here we are, in this situation where we are right now, where elite is fighting against elite making the middle slowly disappear. Pvp is just so great to illustrate this.

I feel like whoever handles rewards and balance (if SP has such person for ML) must know nothing about the game. This game has so many power layers it’s actually incredible: from teams with commons on defense to 130 warmasters, and all of them have their own meta. You need to actually play the game and to grow an account from the scratch to see it and I really doubt that whoever makes decisions did that, at least because it takes at least a couple of years to progress to the top, and even with 2 years you'd need to invest a good amount of money. What it means is we won't get a large influx of decent players to fill up empty spots top 100/50/30 teams have for quite a while (which they have to fill up with their alt accounts or accept lower players), if it's actually going to happen at all, maybe we'll just see more mergers of half empty teams and overall level will drop, and the gap will just become even bigger, until elite teams won't find any even semi decent targets to fight but themselves. SP rarely does anything if it doesn’t give them additional revenue in short term. They do some great things and then crush your hope again gutting something else. Anyways, I don’t know the actual numbers, ML statistics and so on, so I might be wrong. It’s only up to SP to decide what to do but I feel like ML is definitely not their main priority.

Now that weekend's over, can we have an official statement as to whether there is any chance of rewards getting improved a bit @Fox ? I understand that giving out Diamond relics is "too much" for you guys, but what about adding Gold relics/ elementium/ Talany cells to the current rewards like @Ekto-Gamat & I suggested? If even that is not feasible, how about adding War coins (e.g. ~2k-2.5k for the final tier) to the prize? I'm sure a lot of teams in the Legendary League will still find it useful, and if only the current rewards are given out as they are, will eventually end up with a surplus of War medals with no way to spend them on anything good. Please, consider a way to make the event worth all the planning and co-ordination it'll still take, in the event of a fair match-up.

@siberity said in New TB rewards... seriously?:

You need to actually play the game and to grow an account from the scratch to see it and I really doubt that whoever makes decisions did that

Yep, that pretty much sums it up!

https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/10907/team-battlegrounds-rewards-response

@Fox

I certainly hope this new 'challenge' will not be a challenge of spending more gems than the other team in another form, otherwise I was perfectly fine with this format and these rewards.

@ekto-gamat said in New TB rewards... seriously?:

https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/10907/team-battlegrounds-rewards-response

@Fox

I certainly hope this new 'challenge' will not be a challenge of spending more gems than the other team in another form, otherwise I was perfectly fine with this format and these rewards.

The original rewards were too low. Once the initial novelty faded, why spend the equivalent of 4 Golden Relic chests on a chance of a Diamond relic when you could spend it on... 4 Golden Relic chests. Let's be candid: the income generation from this event for SP is primarily about encouraging us to expand our rosters (monsters and runes). The revive costs were short term opportunistic income that would have dried up because the old rewards were not worth the gem cost. The current rewards give no incentive to prepare for and anticipate this event, so they lose all income generation from the event. If the next version has better rewards but imposes high event costs... this event is a waste of time.

Hi @ekto-gamat,

Nope, we won't touch the revive or any gems spending mechanic as far as I know.