Halloween book wasn’t bad, you just had to spend money on maze for Beledig. Maybe on some monsters you were missing.
This new book is is just a plain cash grab which really sucks the fun right out of the “event”. Pay to get 2 monsters from maze 33K coins. Pay for a race nonster. Complete another event. No fun! Not worth it!

I would rather have normal book rewards with achievable goals. SP can put that other crap( orbs, relic, cells) in one of their Masters Packs for $99.99 If they’re just looking for cash instead of killing the collecting fun.

Or the books could stay with achievable limits... I could complete Halloween TL book Chapter 5 as a total ftp through pure dedication and effort, and a little help from teammates, but the prospects this time look bleak indeed.... Honestly, there's really no need to dangle lucrative rewards and make them inaccessible without paying exorbitant prices...
Btw, @testcyp not sure how you're fitting in the Warmaster in the book... Shademoon, the last monster in Chapter 5 is the prize for the monthly race..

@johnml ah ok thanks for the shade moon correction! But races still cost $$$. Facts

Guess that all depends on your goal(s) for these "limited" books, personally I have not nor do I have any intentions on changing my gaming strategies and yet I ended this one with all chapters except the last. The events have been gem or RM hogs for quite some time this just adds a little more "incentive" to try to encourage players to pay to get to the "end". It is a never ending cycle with all those monsters you paid or worked hard to get just to have them obsolete faster than a New York minute. As such my gaming philosophy has changed. I no longer stress myself out trying to reach these things, they just lead to disappointment, anger, frustration and empty pockets.

Oh and all these things have not changed my collecting fun in the least....577 unique monsters strong so far.

@nynaevelan Would love to see a SS from your next vault's slot price ^^

@nynaevelan lol I find it hard to believe that someone who’s collected 577 monsters and loves collecting isn’t bothered by not being able to complete books based on collecting . That’s pretty Zen.
It’s just kinda infuriating that EVERY SINGLE THING has a larger and larger price tag. There no reason not to have those rewards in a pay pack, and have the book be achievable for F2P collectors and give the normal lvl 6 rune, some L cells and food.
Who likes to constantly feel like they’re getting conned.

@testcyp said in Please no more “limited time” books!:

@nynaevelan lol I find it hard to believe that someone who’s collected 577 monsters and loves collecting isn’t bothered by not being able to complete books based on collecting . That’s pretty Zen.
It’s just kinda infuriating that EVERY SINGLE THING has a larger and larger price tag. There no reason not to have those rewards in a pay pack, and have the book be achievable for F2P collectors and give the normal lvl 6 rune, some L cells and food.
Who likes to constantly feel like they’re getting conned.

Nope not bothered by it at all, FYI as a company trying to make a profit I find it unlikely their priority or high concern is for f2p players, they are and should be concerned with p2p players. With that said since this is supposed to be a "free" game they really do seem to have enough content to whet the appetite of f2p players. Enough to keep up with the p2p players? NO and in all honesty what game does?? There are some that have a smaller gap between the two groups but the gap does still exist.

Oh and again as a collector these books and their "rewards" are not a part of my priority, do I want them? Of course? Are they required or desired? Not in the least, I see them as an extra bonus to my #1 priority not the force that is driving it. And to be honest I have NO finished books except for the Beginners one and even that is not finished since I have no desire to rank all those monsters for those tiny rewards so the Limited ones not being obtainable is not a big loss to me.

@nynaevelan said in Please no more “limited time” books!:

And to be honest I have NO finished books except for the Beginners one and even that is not finished since I have no desire to rank all those monsters for those tiny rewards

74 Keeper cells to complete chapter 3 rank 5 though.

@ekto-gamat said in Please no more “limited time” books!:

@nynaevelan said in Please no more “limited time” books!:

And to be honest I have NO finished books except for the Beginners one and even that is not finished since I have no desire to rank all those monsters for those tiny rewards

74 Keeper cells to complete chapter 3 though.

You consider this a good reward or is this sarcasm?

@nynaevelan said in Please no more “limited time” books!:

@ekto-gamat said in Please no more “limited time” books!:

@nynaevelan said in Please no more “limited time” books!:

And to be honest I have NO finished books except for the Beginners one and even that is not finished since I have no desire to rank all those monsters for those tiny rewards

74 Keeper cells to complete chapter 3 though.

You consider this a good reward or is this sarcasm?

I consider it a good reward (not being sarcastic <= not being sarcastic here either <= or here :D).

@ekto-gamat ok good for you personally I didn't because I rarely use Keeper.

No problem with them trying to get us to buy stuff in game. Like I said put it in an offer or a chest or something.
Stop trying to shove pay mechanics into every part of the game with dubious incentives to trick people into trying to pay. It’s annoying and frankly makes SP look bad. Not everything has to be a con job which is definitely what these books are.
You need to do 4-5 currency conversions to try and decide if you’re actually getting what you’re paying for or are you getting ripped off. And by currency I’m talking about cells, orbs, coins, relics, gems, and actual money which all have different values depending on event.

Fair points indeed @Nynaevelan. However, I do feel that certain aspects of the game should be kept on equal footing for both p2ps and f2ps, if only to keep the interest alive in the latter group (SP should just look at the popularity of the Master of Paths events to see my point). The final chapters of these Limited time books are in no way possible to be completed totally free, but as long as it seems doable without spending TOO much, I think it'd generate more revenue in the long term... After all, there is little to interest the so-called whales, but the rewards are pretty lucrative for low spenders and f2ps...

@johnml said in Please no more “limited time” books!:

The final chapters of these Limited time books are in no way possible to be completed totally free, but as long as it seems doable without spending TOO much, I think it'd generate more revenue in the long term...

And that's the problem with the current book, because getting the two monsters from the maze is just impossible without spending at least 50 dollars, which is way too much (I can buy a good PC game at that price).
It would've been doable with one of them in the book, but not this way.

Nobody says that SP should not make money. I think the point is that, as we work to complete some special events, there is an expectation that we get the rewards at a good price. This is not the case with the Polar book and the Soul Hugger event. To me, the most interesting rewards were the orbs and the diamond relic; but it is cheaper just to buy them using the regular offers. As for a strong monster in dark/spirits, I already have a few, so why bother if it is so expensive.
The trick behind is simple but effective: do an affordable event, then do a much more expensive one using the same format, in order to create the illusion that the second one is achievable; people get into it and start spending and then cannot get out cause are already invested in it.
To conclude, some events in ML are just better be ignored.

@jizzusdoe but SP forgets that we can share the costs between each other, so we know it's way more expensive. So the illusion is lost and people don't spend on the event

Yeah this maze would be impossible to get the 2 monsters you need for the books. It was 1000 coins per move just to get the first monster. You would have to spend 100's of dollars in maze coins to get the 2nd monster for the book. I think at least 200 dollars in maze coins. It's kind of rediculous

@philip-strohmier 200 dollars for the whole maze, but those two still cost around 100 dollars (I don't think we'll get another 30% discount).
I just gave it up. No point in trying.

@keki14 You guys still upset about the maze? Just take a look at the remaining duration of the book and the time of launch of the Winter Citadel race... 12d remaining and a 11d race coming up... If this is intentional, I think SP deserves all the cash they're milking out as a reward for ingenuinity

@johnml yeah, 1 day to hatch Shademoon.
Not like it matters to me, no Kozorg or Frosilka here.

Well I got a rank 2 Frosilka for myself skipping everything else... If Kozorg pops up in MW its a bonus, if not, still happy with a water.. "Anti-denier", I guess?