One of the most hardest and expensive races every put out by sp and you nerf the monster before we even get it. Come on now! Touted as being a beast dodging Alll aoe attacks now reduced to one trun trait. That's like buying a Dodge Viper, expecting to get a supercar and finding a pinto motor under the hood. Social point should be ashamed of themselves. Now if it's was a regular race ow well but this jacked up hugely expensive race was just a let down. I won't believe anything I see coming from you all anymore.

I am ready to understand people getting disappointed for having something different than what they expected but so far Shademoon has not been nerfed in any way, he is not even available in the game yet. He still does what is described in his official description and dodge area attacks (though I agree this description should have been made clearer). Now he is likely to work the way Kozorg works which means the 1 turn mentioned is misleading: on his first move (at the battle's start) he will have the dodge area status caster, once his first move is done he will still be under his status caster dodge area. That still makes him a huge threat for whoever knows how to play: you have to choose either targeting him and leave his teammates or strip him from his status caster, or target his mates but takes the risk to get hammered by him when he moves. He is a great attacker relatively fast, good amount of life, can hit pretty hard, get under evasion, kills anything that is in the spirit books. He has an Aoe guard down + extra turn that can be followed by an Aoe 50% stun that will ensure you stun everyone. You have plenty of ways to use him especially that now you can play around with different skillsets. I would like people think a bit first before complaining too much. Look at this monster, he may not be what you expected but he is still definitely a great attacker, no doubt about that.

The only thing we can complain about is we didnt have the official data about the monster before the event started and I think that should always happen either (prefer and) the monster be showed by youtuber or/and official data from SP so I really hope this will be in 2019 let that be the New Years resolution. All players can decide if they want to invest in the monster.

The rest was leaked info

No AoE cursing... Trait lasts one turn... Enough said. It doesn't worth it to be race monster of one the most expensive races, in my opinion.
Fool me once...fool me twice SP.
Well there goes the 25 laps we got...

I thought the weather man had the perfect job, he can be wrong 90 percent of the time and keep there job. But I see now it’s who ever runs this game, totally destroy it and stay in charge.

@marianne-van-es yes we should get what the monster is Before a event starts anything less than that is racing and hopeing for a good monster. And I never look at YouTube or any where else for info on a monster because most time not right. I saw status caster when you posted what the monster was going to have. I thought all the other status caster monsters were more than one turn my mistake.
Now about the race. I believe my thoughts on this race were spot on. Increased gem cost for skipping, ridiculous amount of epic monster breeding to name a few. This has been the only race I know of like this. If this is the new format for races it needs to go back to the drawing board

@fireman53 said in Shademoon ? Really:

I saw status caster when you posted what the monster was going to have. I thought all the other status caster monsters were more than one turn my mistake.

Elvira?

This monster is bad. Literally the only thing it can do is kill Xiron RUBY because of trait and spirit hater move. The rest of his moves are just a mess. All his moves are low power and effect single target. Everything does 25-30 damage even his single target moves! He has 1 move that does 50 dmg and evasion. His high stat isn’t going to fix him hitting like a feather. And yes I have already hatched and fed him so I could see his moves.

@testcyp He does have the aoe guard-down + stun combo he can do. I do agree though they nerfed him to h8ll, and ruined the main thing people really liked about him. His trait sucks, and doesn't work correctly from what I can tell. For the description for him amoung with Eeltron, and Kozorg. Isn't properly done. For they just are Description_Key_Fix errors not telling how it actually works. Also Dodge Arena only lasts one turn which is basically useless considering how fast he is ranked up, and how he already has an evasion skill. Which itself can block an attack for a turn... This likely is the same for Eeltron, and Kozorg, but don't own those monsters. So I can't really tell. I hate when people who put actual $$$ in the event can't be told, and shown what they're working towards. That isn't morally right. We worked towards a monster with dodge arena trait (not SC), with aoe curse, and aoe evasion. However now we get something way weaker then that, and frankly isn't really worth it. Plus why isn't the aoe curse, an actual aoe curse, instead of this weird single hit residual damage cr@p.

@monstrousmaniac AOE Guard down (0 damage) and stun (25 damage) is trash,( both on 3 turn CD) especially since you most likely already denied other team. The rest of his moves little damage as well.
I thought Eeltron was weak(another guy with all low power moves) but this guy is worse. Eeltron SC at least covers entire team for 2 turns.

So it's final ? they'll leave this monster like this ? wish i knew , this is not a race monster , in this form wouldn't even pay 250 gems for it on discount , i understand leaks should not be taken at face value but they do come from somewhere so at some point this monster was designed to be quite nice hence the so expensive race i imagine ( that makes sense to me) ...so what the fudge happened, who decided ( in the spirit of the holidays ) to change a race monster to a mediocre monster but not change the format of the race ? this stinks, i wish they do reconsider the skills of this monster ( wouldn't be that hard , they do it all the time ) ....because i know another bunch of people feeling disappointed yet again and with a foot out the door

@alex-pisi I have no idea if there are going to be changes, but all feedback is discussed also about the race -monster

I am also very unhappy with this monster (got him at rank 1). We had some guy on our team spend gems for the whole 10 days... he got over 55k points. Without him we wouldn't even have an unranked Shademoon.

But I cannot see any redeeming qualities for Shademoon - I didn't even bother running the spirit hater skill either, as it is too situational.

The AOE 50% stun is a possibility after AOE guard down, but meh this monster is quite trashy.

@clackers Agree been trying to use him, but haven't found a good use that other monsters cannot just do 100% better

guys u all have got it wrong shademoon is basically immortal. deniers are basically useless aginst him due to dodge area so u either deny him with single deny or deny others and not him. u can use the guard down skill first and concussion bomb to stun all then use vanishing threat. then faceless vengeance to get all stamina back and repeat the cycle. no one except anticipation and maybe stun immune(sometimes) monster are truly anti shademoon. he may be a bit disappointing than before but he is still amazing guys. Instead of whining about the bad pls appreciate the good guys. No monster is perfect. use him correctly and u win every match

@nikhil-justin-rajkumar no he's trash unless he's fighting something from the spirits book

@nikhil-justin-rajkumar very true, have no idea whats up with the trash talk.

@joohnzy i know right!!!!!

@testcyp dude u obviously havent read my comment. Pls read and respect others opinion

@xargul someone gets it thumbs up bro

@nikhil-justin-rajkumar thanks for advice. Wasnt using him bc couldnt find good combo of skills but with your setup he is way better now

@star-parts np bro. good to see people changing opinion. he really is good