What is the point of having a roulette spin if all the pieces are the same ? It's not like we can get bonus spins with gems..
You could just give the corresponding amount of coins right away, just like it worked previously.
About the coins earned, I have not done the math to see how much "easier" is this format than previous ones. BUT, I remember the PvP 72 hour challenge that was giving 800 coins per win and it was still hard. Now look at the chart given and make your own assumptions.
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Post count: 1186Reputation: 3882Joined:Hi @esentis,
That would be ideal, however, it's not technically possible at the moment, hence the roulette.
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Post count: 856Reputation: 406Joined:@fox Well with all due respect, why not take your time to be technically ready, then release it ? Just saying. It's not like players are eagerly waiting for another borderline broken 72hr challenge.
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Post count: 23Reputation: 9Joined:@esentis said in 72 hour Relic Challenge Discussion:
@fox Well with all due respect, why not take your time to be technically ready, then release it ? Just saying. It's not like players are eagerly waiting for another borderline broken 72hr challenge.
The roulette is just a minor nuisance.
The really broken part is mainly going to be playing 3 days and not even have enough coins to get the 3 silver relics on the first board for most players.
Remember is starting at the season reset, where the first day you will be getting all those impossible targets (assuming you are in legendary IV).
For most players not in the top 500, after you win a few fights, you won't be able to win much anymore.
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Post count: 856Reputation: 406Joined:@roger-c It's not a minor nuisance for me. It's like a lazy patch, instead of finding a real solution of delivering the currency of the event. At least we don't get the coins mailed (just kidding).
Now about the event itself, it's much worse in my opinion as I said in the OP but that's just me. Speaking for myself, getting 500 coins for every victory won't get me that far in any board out of the three. I know that by facts, comparing to the previous 800 coins per win event.
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Post count: 179Reputation: 106Joined:@esentis Agree with you on the fact that the release of the event could've been made at a later time with proper preparations. That said, it won't matter too much for most lvl 90+ players, who populate the Legendary IV and up, so I guess we can live with that
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Post count: 72Reputation: 33Joined:I don't see the problem here @esentis . We can get a Diamond relic free to play by doing PvP. How cool is that?? I rather have that than have SP waste time on the roulette wheel. There are approximately 45 free PvP plays in the event.
If you're not in Legendary league yet - you have something to look forward to and a reason to build up your monsters.
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Post count: 856Reputation: 406Joined:@david-bjurman-birr There are 36 PvP plays if you get 1 point every 2 hours, plus 6 from dailies equals 42. That means the best you can get is ~21k points (assuming you are in legendary IV) if you WIN all of your attacks, something that is not possible (special rng factor, misses etc). That's of course if you don't buy any attacks
I don't know how much it actually costs but it must be a lot more.
I talked about the roulette because it replaces all the other rewards for the sake of challenge coins. I've got many times 3 gems on PvP roulette spin. MInor inconvenience but still an inconvenience.
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Post count: 72Reputation: 33Joined:You can start with 2 dailies from the day before though. Several of my teammates already have the relic. One got it after only 2,000 coins spent (lucky). Totally possible to win all attacks if you're careful to have good relics & runes. And if you don't, it only costs 5 gems to get an extra attack. Ah, I see your point now. You would like previous roulette rewards in addition to the challenge coins. Makes sense and I agree.
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Post count: 759Reputation: 414Joined:You guys think this is something that you can earn by playing. You arenβt supposed to earn it. Itβs just more gambling from SP. some will get 4 wins and get legendary relic with 2000 coins (4 pvp wins) most can get 20000 coins and still need to spend a few gems to flip last couple cards.
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Post count: 72Reputation: 33Joined:@testcyp I agree...I just think it's a very good event. I'm very happy with it and don't see the need to complain. This is almost as perfect of an event SP could come up with. Winnable by nearly every player in the game. Even a diamond relic only requires a few gems at most...and those are also easily obtainable for free. It's really refreshing to see an event that doesn't require me to play real money to complete. It's also fun to do pvp and that aspect presents a little challenge (e.g. not losing any battles so I don't have to use my gems. But if I have to use a few gems for a few extra pvp attacks, it's really not very many)
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Post count: 4476Reputation: 1649Joined:@arclord why is that?
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Post count: 179Reputation: 73Joined:@david-bjurman-birr are you on their pay roll or something? I am down to last card with no diamond and over 40 gems less than i started. This 72hr played out like most where i keep my hopes up to very end then cant afford last card
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Post count: 4476Reputation: 1649Joined:@star-parts thats most fun thing I read since race hit 50 laps @David-Bjurman-Birr
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Post count: 225Reputation: 80Joined:@marianne-van-es probably because p2p and higher levels get much higher coins in the pvp roulette while low levels and most f2p will have a hard time on it? Werent we all complaining how unfair the event was to high levels previously? Well, now its unfair to middle level and low level players
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Post count: 4476Reputation: 1649Joined:@arclord i agree this kind of 72h challenge favors higher level players or to say it more accurate l4 and up this isnt equal to p2p because I know many players that are in L4 or higher. Maybe a solution would be to alternate different 72h. Because if you gave equal coins in leagues players would drop
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@david-bjurman-birr are you on their pay roll or something? I am down to last card with no diamond and over 40 gems less than i started. This 72hr played out like most where i keep my hopes up to very end then cant afford last card
So, if you had the gems you could have gotten a diamond relic for less than 100 gems. How can this event possibly have been unfair to you then?
Diamond relics are end game material, not something to give away for free, and enough players were lucky enough to get it for free anyway.
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Post count: 179Reputation: 73Joined:@ekto-gamat i did get the diamond using gems for pvp stamina and agree for this event it was fair. My issue is the way they make it seem like 72hrs are based on luck of the draw when nearly every time main prize is under last card. Gets annoying time after time
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Post count: 4476Reputation: 1649Joined:@star-parts I always have if until last card or last 2, but this time i had the relic on 4th so i was extremely happy and i understand your complain but I rather have it this way than on the last 3 cards as it used to be.
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Post count: 72Reputation: 33Joined:@star-parts No...but 40 gems for a diamond relic is a good deal. They're normally much harder and more expensive (600+ gems) to get. Just save up 100 gems next time and you'll be able to complete it free to play. What I recommend is saving 200+ gems and only using for high-value activities. Right now, that would be R3+ race completion or diamond relic for me.
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Post count: 72Reputation: 33Joined:@marianne-van-es Agreed. And I'd also add it's probably unrealistic for lower level players to expect a diamond relic free to play. That's why there are other options for Gold/Silver.
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Post count: 179Reputation: 73Joined:@david-bjurman-birr I ended up getting it for 100 something gems. The 40 gems at time was frustrating bc i was on last card once again with no more points and over 6.0 in pvp meaning i was facing level 130 monsters with my 105s so the next 2k coins were really tough. I had 360 gems saved from dungeons and sidebar events so that wasnt issue. I concede that this event was a good value for diamond relic and glad i was finally able to get one. As for other 72hr events, i apparently have terrible luck. Ive had very few complaints about this game until all the recent changes that seem to not support f2p people so just making my opinions known since its all i can do. Im sure i just seem like a whiner but ive seen what happens when digital companies like this get bought out. Normally the people who work on the game and actually care about it lose say to the business-minded check writers and it gets ran into ground. Just hoping thats not the case with this game as i still enjoy playing it.
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Post count: 72Reputation: 33Joined:@star-parts I understand your point of view. I just wanted to provide another perspective. I think SP struck a good balance with this oevent...players still have a challenge and must work for the top prize and it isn't easy per se. But it's also within reach of most players who've developed their monsters enough to get into the Champion/Legendary leagues.
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Post count: 179Reputation: 73Joined:@david-bjurman-birr I appreciate the perspective and agree their way of giving points by pvp league was a fair way to balance. Next time ill find a rabbits foot before flipping
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