I want to ask of any people here if you are or have been in top 500 of pvp.
How much money have you spent on the game to be able to reach and finish in Legendary III league?

Has anyone ever been able to finish top 500 pvp as a f2p?

I have a reserved seat in the top 500. Many others on this Forum do as well, or even higher (@C0ntr1v3d , @xargul )

I know f2p players can finish top 500. But most of the time they are players since the first year of ML and have also benefitted from early Frat Events in mixed p2p/f2p teams, the cheap prices of generals, the lvl IX runes in the Team Shop, and, as a consequence, the ability to finish all Nemesis dungeons and craft them.

For an F2P player that did not have all these advantages it probably will be much more difficult.

@monsterbath said in Are you a pvp top 500?:

Has anyone ever been able to finish top 500 pvp as a f2p?

I do so regularly without spending gems, actually haven't missed L3 in a long time. And it's pretty much what Ekto has described, although I was never on a team as generous as AMAB. It's also tactics as to how you approach PvP as well as learning what teams you can beat with your PvP team and which you need to stay clear from. My team is Talos the Forgotten Artifact/General Alces/Voltaik all Lvl 130 full X and good ranked relics.

Nope I always finish around 600. I don’t have an answer for these teams yet

@testcyp said in Are you a pvp top 500?:

I don’t have an answer for these teams yet

Neither do I and I don't need to fight them to get into L3. Getting into L3 is also about tactics, ie. how you play PvP

@david-ml what does that even mean?

@testcyp
I love doing PVP. I usually end up in top 30 if i'm not busy. When I'm too busy, I usually end up top 300. I only hit those line up that suit my interests.

@star Wow, top 30 is incredible. If you don't mind me asking, how much money did it cost you(over time) to be where you are with your monsters, runes, relics?

@monsterbath
I lost count; I'm not a big spender. I spend once a while here and there but only on the monsters that I will use the most for war. I don't have a good profile monster in monstagram, hence I'm not a collector.

Another angle to look at it, given the variance due to early players that were able to score Nemesis for free, is to approach the question from someone that's a recent player without those perks of days gone.

Currently, if someone was rather new to the game, how much do you guys think they would have to spend to be able to hit and stay in top 500 of pvp? $1,000? More? Less?

1000 usd would get you enough gems to buy 3 fully ranked warmasters which would surely get you top 500. However you would have to have multiple rank 5 monsters in other areas to be able to get those warmasters... Hmm.

But anyway, if you can get the wm for that then you should be able to get other monsters to reach top 500...

With the right cell offer then you can get 6 rank 5s for 1000 bucks. Let's say you can get 14 packs for your money. That's 24000 gems. For 1100 you get a lvl 3 monster... Or used to. Then you need 1100 more cells. At 325 per 120 cells that's another 3200 gems. This 4300 for a rank 5. So six of them is 24k gems.

Please don't pick holes in my math as the numbers are all approx...

Then 6 tank 5s gives you great attacking and def options.

And yes I am obviously bored right now

@ibobs72 said in Are you a pvp top 500?:

1000 usd would get you enough gems to buy 3 fully ranked warmasters which would surely get you top 500.

My guess is you will be annihilated too easily/quickly on defence if that is all you have to reach top 500.

Need 3 warmasters + 3 A class monsters.

@ibobs72
I disagree. It'll get you 2 full rank Warmasters; not 3.
I use 1 Warmaster, 1 Nemesis, and 1 regular Legendary for offense in PVP can get me a quick top 500 rank.

That's OK. I don't know anything about anything really. I've just fluked my way to top 30 pvp, blind luck really... Apologies for disturbing the peace.

@ibobs72
No biggy!
I had been fighting blindfolded disregarding the out speed of the opponents but somehow found my self up in top 3 but ended up in top 13; very ironic!! I did spend a few hundred gems though! In returened got myself some nice silver and gold chests rewards plus orbs! I'll take it!

@star so what team are you on and what's your in game name?

If said person is not on a timescale, 1000$ would nearly get you 5 ranked WM.
It costs a total of 19750 heroic orbs for 1 rank 5 WM.
19750÷110(first 2 orb discounts)=179.54
179.54x42=7540(total gems for r5 wm)
Minimum duration 90 days per WM buying first 2 discounts twice a day
Total cost per wm 220$, not including any heroic orbs obtained in game.
This isnt the full picture though as you will also need X runes(soon maybe mutant runes), relics, food to level up monsters and relics, feeder relics to level up your good relics, a good gold farm to buy the above food and as @ibobs72 said you also need rank 5 monsters to complete WM dungeons(technically you could get these completely free from the teamshop).
I cant see any new player even with 1000$ to spend reaching L3 fast. I reckon a minimum of 2000$.

@ibobs72

Below are my take for getting full rank Warmaster, unless I'm off otherwise.

@500$= 17000 Gems [100 @ 3400 gems]
Every Happy Hour’s time, click 11 times to buy Orbs.
1- Per 11 clicks= 1100 orbs [ cost 845 gems]
2- 11 clicks X 18 every Happy Hours= 19800 Orbs [ cost 15210 gems]
3- Total requirements to get full rank Warmaster= 19750 Orbs.

@ekto-gamat said in Are you a pvp top 500?:

@ibobs72 said in Are you a pvp top 500?:

1000 usd would get you enough gems to buy 3 fully ranked warmasters which would surely get you top 500.

My guess is you will be annihilated too easily/quickly on defence if that is all you have to reach top 500.

Need 3 warmasters + 3 A class monsters.

Defense isn't as important as before after recent change. Just one decent monster is enough to get some defense points.

A seemingly innocent defence with monsters Lvl 115 to 120 that has a nasty surprise yields more successful defences than a kick-ass one that will only be touched by those knowing they can beat it

@david-ml sorry most of us don’t have double T-shield, cane of Atlantis, Ingvar banners fully ranked to give “nasty surprises” on defense

True but I'm hovering around the L3 /L4 threshold with 110-115s monsters on defense. Currently my defense rate is 41/86, only diamond relic I have equipped is a Cane of Atlantis and only 7 of my runes are X runes.

It's doable with ranked 3 nemesis. Payton (team AFKK) got top 500 several times in the past.

@testcyp neither do I and my defence doesn't even have X runes but I win about 30% I'd say!

Well this is exciting and diverse

@testcyp

I love those line up!!

@testcyp
Your natural refresh is only 1 minute away. Why did you not pay the gold to manually refresh and hope for a better selection?

I always flip through all refreshes every chance I get, hoping to find a reasonable chance to make a successful attack. I did get lucky enough to temporarily reach rank 212 a few days ago after reset. Highest I've ever been and of course, it didn't last long.

Still trying and hoping to reach top 500 at season end but it's almost impossible because there is no cooldown timer on my shield dropping so the moment I attack I get attacked. I win 25 points and lose 26 points at the same moment in time. Wish it would hold the shield for just 5 minutes. Please, SP, consider this.

@monsterbath said in Are you a pvp top 500?:

Why did you not pay the gold to manually refresh and hope for a better selection?

LOL, for the purpose of getting this screenshot obviously