I welcome the changes recently implemented for the dungeons. I believe that this game feature has a lot of unexplored potential. I prefer to engage in battle more than anything else. It is fun, it is what, in my opinion, ML should be more about.
More specifically, I really appreciate the following:

• The reorganization of dungeons in a more consistent, predictable calendar;

• More dungeons during the weekend, when players usually have more time on their hands;

• Each dungeon is structured around a type of reward, which allows the players to focus on those dungeons bringing the resource that they need;

• Eliminating the items from the reward roulette, as they were just a little nuisance the players had to put up with. Cells for monsters, even if older or lower quality, give some sort of satisfaction.

• Rethinking the elemental dungeon difficulty according to player level. Before, the first nodes were too easy to get through.

Going forward, I would like to have even more opportunities to use my monsters in battle. I invest so much in them and really, the battle opportunities are rather limited. So, I would like to see:

• Even more difficult dungeons, perhaps with some mid-level runes and some starting battle conditions. I know that there has to be a balance between new and more advanced players. However, most of the dungeons are still very easy to go through for an advanced player.

• For more difficult dungeons, the reward could be some cells for legendary/epic non-breedable monsters, even if older. Say 25 cells of Metalhead or something similar. I am not looking for big rewards, just something that is enough to engage the player in battle.

Getting back to the initial message, thanks to the developers for rethinking this feature. I really appreciate it.

I might have been too quick in judging the new dungeons. The rewards have decreased: gems from 272 to 240, and elementium from 68 to 36 per month. I guess they figured we'll get some rewards from the Cave and took them out from the dungeons. So I guess it is more gambling and less actual gameplay, which contradicts what my initial post was saying. So there. I was optimistic for once and the good old profit was behind this too.

@karbie-sweet I do like the rune dungeons though!! Restricted Elementium dungeon is way underwhelming indeed, filler nodes for ridiculously low gold amounts.. 500 gold ? Really??

@karbie-sweet said in New dungeons feedback:

Even more difficult dungeons

Yes, I would welcome regular difficult dungeons like the Nemesis Survival Dungeon. Some of the most exciting game moments I had during the first Talos Dungeons and the first lot of Nemesis Cell Dungeons. The once a month Nemesis Survival Dungeon just doesn't cut it.....

....the rest is just auto grind for rewards!

How about regular dungeons (of maybe 5 or 6 nodes), but you must use a team of each element on each node.
So you go through the dungeon with your Magic A Team, then your Fire team etc..

Competition between players is also needed on dungeon nodes, such as a score for each fight, and a global leaderboard for each node.

Anyway I would also want to see:

A survival dungeon every weekend
Nemesis dungeons each week (Mon-Fri)
Daily Cells dungeon
Weekly Gems dungeon (get gems on every node, like war coins... 3 survivors in victory = 3 gems)

Warmaster Heroic Dungeons are very good, but Orbs should be made available through Monsterwood. That gives people a reason to watch videos.

Gold and Food dungeons, and the elemental cells dungeons need to be abolished ASAP. NO one cares.

@karbie-sweet you knew it had to be taking away from us when you saw it. $P motto the shinier the package the bigger the turd inside.

We need Dungeons like the old Nemesis Cell Dungeons. Regular Dungeons that you can retry as many times as you like, not Survival, with high ranked monsters, runes and relics - a real challenge! Even if the rewards are not as lucrative as the Nemesis Survival Dungeon, it would be a nice addition to the current boring ones. Give the high level players something enjoyable to do outside of wars and PvP!!! @Fox add one to your weekly Dungeon schedule!!!

@david-ml and keep the ridiculous amount of misses out of new dungeons

@david-ml I think that’s not a bad idea. They don’t need to give out 25 cells or whatever but a cell dungeon with 10 nemesis cells at end would be ok. Different element every week and a random 10 cells of one of the 3 of that element. So even if you’re lucky it will still take months to get the 25 everyone needs but at least it will be possible.

It is not a bad idea, but unfortunately I don't think it will happen as long as SP want to sell those awful Nemesis chests. And as the regulatory bodies are not very fast in banning loot boxes, this may take a while.

While the gems in dungeons decreased, I did notice we now have one more daily gem in goals, which balances that out.

But the chance of getting gems in roulette is gone - I guess the treasure rooms replace those.

At the end of week 1, I was able to keep up with them without begging for stamina, so that's a good thing.

@tracey-mill-toms said in New dungeons feedback:

I was able to keep up with them without begging for stamina

You don't ever ask for stamina as those request only annoy people and will get deleted anyway. You only send stamina via Adventure Map to all friends once or twice a day (you can only send 1 point every 12 hours). There are quite a few players out there who will remove 'friends' if they only beg and never give

@david-ml not if you know them irl

does the treasure cave give less rewards per room after the last update ? seems so to me ! has it been "adjusted " already ?

@alex-pisi IMO, the Treasure Caves are going to be a shortlived thing before they fade away like other new events $P try - despite their new CEO Armor Gaming trumpeting how good the Treasure Caves are on YouTube.

@alex-pisi I got 500 food in 4 rooms after each other ...

well that was that , they didn't know how to cut off from the gems in dungeons and they blindsided us with a couple days of good stuff in the cave and then took it away, how very typical of SP ! bleh

@alex-pisi

in the last 4/5 days I couldn't take nothing from the caves...

@jimmy said in New dungeons feedback:

in the last 4/5 days I couldn't take nothing from the caves...

Me too

@pyrpyl First door : 500 food.
Second door: Trap.
500 food... Sigh.

Let's be honest, the new dungeons and the caves are a failure.

I'm very very disappointed, for the most times I log in only to realise that there is nothing worth to do.

Boredom rules the game.

@jimmy said in New dungeons feedback:

Let's be honest, the new dungeons and the caves are a failure.

I like the new dungeons. Less grinding for similar amount of rewards! Also, the rune dungeons are much better value now. I mean Lvl 5-10 chest! No idea what the chances of a 10 are but a 5 is definitely better than the 4 lvl 4s we used to get....

....the caves are a menace! They exploit gambling nature - that's the big problem! I only ever go to the first trap, pay 4 gems and cash in on my rewards....

....however, I think too many were doing this, so SP has now reduced the rewards. Fewer cells and goodies in between and mostly useless food and gold. Door 5 used to be 2 gems/elementium and door 10 4 gems/elementium, now we are getting 1 and 2. Needless to say that I am now mostly walking away with nothing spent and nothing gained!!!

@david-ml

I agree the rune dungeons are better, but the others give us less rewards.
how could be this considered an improvement?

probably it's just me, but I feel like playing this game is not as fun as before...

I think that the survival dungeons have also disappeared? That's 22 gems and 14 elementium less each month, not to mention the cells to rank a good epic.

There are definitely aspects that I enjoy about the new dungeons. But I cannot shake the feeling that for each step forward there are two steps back.

i was ready to be happy with the new dungeon formats , being more compact, actually having stamina for once to kinda finish them all , ok so i lost a few gems but i get a chance to change some gems for some orbs/elemetium/ elemental in the cave BUT ...now the cave gives 500 food and trap at the 3rd door...the rune dungeon while it gives a tiny tiny chance of the rune being higher than 5 ...it never happened to me and other than a couple of peeps bragging on FB they got a higher one...how many people play this game again ?...so what is the % of it being higher than 5 ...laughable it is ...as for a 5 being better than 4x4 ...well...not really , you might get 2-3 V's if you're lucky at gambling ...anyway, runes you make but what's really bothering me here is that everything good in the game that helps you advance and compete slowly disappears : nemesis cells dungeons, VIP cells dungeons, gems / elementium cells in dungeons , percentages in breeding events lower just to be replaced by OFFERS , CHESTS and GAMBLING !! am i playing a game of strategy or i'm in gambler's fantasy island

@karbie-sweet each Survival dungeon gave out 12 gems and 10 elementium in total, so that's 24 gems and 20 elementium less per month than before... While I was okay with the change as I thought things get balanced out by the Caves, now the situation is different. We can definitely not establish in a believable way whether rates of trap triggering have gone up or not...whatever we feel like, we'll always be fed with a "you're just unlucky" comment, but I think we do deserve an explanation about why the rewards were suddenly (and SILENTLY) reduced, without an equivalent reduction in retry costs...

They take out the elementium from cells dungeons, so no one does that dungeons,