Ever since cell donations were introduced, players have been unhappy with the strict limits imposed. But not long after, it was discovered each team gets assigned a "reset" time for cell donations. Then for the hour that followed (called "happy hour" by many), we were allowed unlimited donations. It wasn't ideal, but it was a fair compromise. It was never clear whether or not this was a glitch, but if it was, it should have legit been made a feature long ago.

Now, SP has a track record of giving with the left hand and taking away with the other. We feel it's no coincidence that epic elemental cell extraction was introduced just before the nerf/fix/whatever to our happy hour.

So with all that in mind, as well as recent discussions about how the game has changed over time and some elements (such as rune removal fees) need to be addressed, we feel it's time to remove the cap on donations entirely. We're not asking for requests to change, but there's no reason to not allow unlimited donations. You've already blocked the ability to request many of the top monsters anyway, so where's the harm?

And for those wondering who I've been talking to, there are a couple FB chats with many competitive team leads. They're INFURIATED with these changes. With all the problems with the game right now, why mess with something that worked just fine? So please, don't just undo this change, but go further and throw your loyal players a bone.

Preferably, do it without taking away something else at the same time.

And if I get one more "if you don't like it, don't play"...

5 cell donation per 24 is a mismatch from 5 per 8 hour request. That always seemed wrong. Why not just up both limits per day? Say 20 in both ways?

Happy hour or witching hour or what ever you want to call it was a glitch. That the glitch was fixed has nothing to do with the epic extraction for elemental cells.

I will sort of miss it but I honestly forget about it most of the time

@sinisism Right now, we have 18-20 players that can donate Cells. Having to "choose" which 5 I donate to in 24 hours is a real balancing act. It would be great if we could donate 10 in 12 hours! Those with active Teams with multiple levels would benefit greatly! New Players to our Team have to make 2 good quality attacks in their first War to request Cells when the War ends. I try to donate to them but sometimes my "5 Legendary" are used & somehow I can't convince them that if they ask for Rare or Epic, they get more....

I never understood why we have a double limitation. I would prefer that you can request every 8hours cells (as it is now), but you can spend how much and how often you want.

I'm certainly missing it, I do forget about the HH often, but whenever I have the chance to donate in the HH it was a great help for each member of the team. I don't see any harm or that to be unbalanced, but maybe SP will figure out and work something out of this topic, hopefully a good solution towards a feature that benefits and helps players grow in the game

ugh ... trading cells with team mates was pretty cool not to mention helping out our lower levels which stand to lose the most with this

I bought Cells during Cell week with the specific intention of donating. Almost always enough to get 25-50 Dr Victor’s challenge gems.
If I can only donate 5 per day they may as well discontinue that sale and it’s challenge.It’s not like they have a ton of great monsters in there....

I want to reactivate this request. It doesn‘t matter whether the „happy hour“ was a glitch or bug. It was a very good solution for smaller players to grow and for stronger players to support teammates.
To remove the „happy hour“ is only a pain and it would be a good solution, also for game balance when there is something changed again. When „Happy Hour“ is not possible it would be a great solution to spend 4 or 5 times per day. And every player can decide to spend L, E, R, UC or C cells. or you change the amount of maximum cells you can spend and makes the value 4 or 5 times. e.g. L you can spend 20cells per day and for all the other categories comparable.

I can certainly see that this 'happy hour' caused some imbalance as it was set in the first hour of donation reset. That meant that in international teams always the same players weren't able to make use of it as it would be in the middle of the night. However, it was a damn sight better than nothing....

.... there is now a HUGE imbalance between requests and donations as you can request up to 3 times per day yet only donate once. This must change or an essential aspect of player development is severely compromised....

....I believe that an 8 hour cooldown which counter is triggered at first donation, ie. same mechanic as requesting, would be the fairest and most logical solution!!! @Fox

I'd like to see a change in this matter. Also, helping each other in the team in order to complete chapters for the Temporary Book it's imposible at this pace. I see reasonable and don't see any harm the idea of being able to donate as many times as we are allowed to request (which is every 8 hrs)

@David-ML and @Bellatrix to be able to spend every 8 hours is a good idea but at the end we won‘t be able to spend than 3 times a day. nobody can be online every 8h. I would prefer a radical change.
You can spend as much as you want
why?
we have already a limitation be the possibilities to request cells.

I want the happy hour back
It was good for Teamspirit
For lower Players to get a chance ranked up any Monster

@Fox can you please let us know whether you are going to make a change to cell trading as it isn't working in its current state after your 'fix'!

Rework the cell system instead of trying new silly maze/breeding event combos which obviously no one asked for. Yes, we all know the happy hour was a glitch, it's cool, but change the donation cooldown down to 8 hours as many have proposed. Your business decisions should not only be around quick cash (breeding+maze event), happy player tend to spend more in the long term. Unless you don't plan to stick around longer.

Hi David and Essentis,

Remember that donations are working as they were actually intended. I understand that many players used the bug to their advantage, exploited it but it has been fixed and it will stay like that.
With that said, we are having discussions if and how to improve the cell donation feature and there were no decisions made yet.

@fox The frustration is clearly that the demand for cells exceeds the supply by 3x based on the way the system is setup now. Half of the team could consume the entire supply for the day before I even get out of bed in the morning; one request at midnight followed by one request at 8am by 15 players could exhaust the 30 player donation limit. Yes, a very contrived example.

I suppose the concern is that opening the donations would hurt cell sales at the lab? It might actually have the opposite effect if it wasn't such a pain transferring cells. If I buy 50 cells for someone and they buy 50 cells for me, it would take 10 days to make the trade. I wouldn't bother and I wouldn't supplement that by buying more expensive cells. If it were easier to swap cells like this I might actually spend more to get what I want faster.

@fox We have 20 very active Cell Requesters on our Team. We make any new players wait one War to request Cells. It is hard to "distribute" 5 Legendary Cells between 20 players! We really need an increase. I usually donate in the mornings & within an hour, usually have used all my Legendary donations. 4-6 hours later, another 4-8 players request Cells & I can't donate to them. It's frustrating for everyone.

While the happy hour may have been a bug, it encouraged teams to work together and help each other out. Only being allowed to donate 5 cells every 24 hours is not very much and it feels like it takes away a major part of teams and teamwork. I think a good compromise would be to match the donation cooldown with the requesting one (resets every 8 hours).

The addition of the Battlegrounds event has made it so people are already less willing to donate certain cells. Decreasing the amount people can donate has made this much worse.

@fox said in Cell Donation Limits:

Remember that donations are working as they were actually intended.

I am aware of that, but that doesn't mean that the intended way is fair and balanced

I understand that many players used the bug to their advantage, exploited it but it has been fixed and it will stay like that.

This wasn't exploiting in the sense that you got something for less or free or multiples of a particular item. It actually enabled players to have proper trades and encouraged players to buy more cells during sales for swaps. If anything, it encouraged players to spend more, not less! This 'bug' has been around for nearly 2 years, so you should be able to 'analyse' game data and compare it with the current state of affairs!

With that said, we are having discussions if and how to improve the cell donation feature and there were no decisions made yet.

I sincerely hope that you can make a change to the current system that will be fair for all. As suggested above, an 8 hour cooldown for donations triggered at first donation after reset would probably be the most sensible solution and 'balanced' which is what I believe you always aim for

or just simply triple the amount of cells that a player can donate in a 24-hour period.

Hi @Fox , something new?

Reviving this thread once more. How come noone has spoken about the annoying one second lag when you donate a cell. Hope this is a glitch.