Well let the maze begin and hoping everyone has the best of luck.

Credit to @sonnorcteer

Dunn Ra

so I got helped by a player on Discord that made this great chart:

@insert-history-and-politics-here I wanted to buy maze coins to start but the fast start offer didn’t show up until 9. 1 min after the 30% discount was over. I’m sure there’s no coincidence though

@testcyp
oh there was a discount at 9? UTC? Which means 4 am est. I guess that's that anticipation fox keeps talking about. Or is that lack of sleep?

Yet again, I get to start with one foot in a hole......

I don't remember it being this bad when started to play this game a couple a years ago.

@lloyd-t-prendergast they always have a 30% discount for the first hour of the maze and they sell coin packs for you to take advantage of it. Unfortunately the coin sale didn't show up until after the discount was over

The map is here : )

@lloyd-t-prendergast if you play this game for years as you said you should know there is always a discount at the beginning of the maze and since most events start between 1 and 3 pm European time zone its always at your night. I know this is frustrating for other timezones maybe it will be nice to have a kind of rotation in future so events also start in favor for other timezones

@testcyp i doubt it was on purpose but I will ask if the sale on coins was planned after discount maybe it had to do with daylight saving and some settings where forgot to be changed

Maze coin dungeon right now

@marianne-van-es
That was actually sarcasm and yall both missed it. But having said that, yes i do normally miss the first discount. But I could always rely on the posted schedule so I could PLAN to get up, take a break from work, etc and get the discounts when it possible to adjust my schedule. Now thats its anytime, anyday. I'm not able to do that. And with time zone differences, the impact is even greater.

If the info I saw was correct this is a comparison of cost in terms of coins needed to collect per day of the past 6 new maze monsters.

10% maze discount now

@karryt so for Nabaline you need to get 245 coins every 4 hours to get her at 100. Sounds reasonable.

@testcyp said in Dwarven Mines Maze:

@karryt so for Nabaline you need to get 245 coins every 4 hours to get her at 100. Sounds reasonable.

I think so, yes. That is also un-discounted cost I think so it dips under 200 coins per pool period if you do the middle road 20%. Of course actually catching discounts kinda sucks now.

Value goes way up once you can start collecting over the 225/period as incremental cost to rank is relatively low. I like this event style though as you can get value with a lot of dedication. A lot of other events are trending towards needing the same type of hyper vigilant time keeping, all to end up paying very close to "normal" cost for the reward at the end...which is really off putting.

When are the discounts and is there a hidden monster??

@bishop2 the maze secret path is dunn ra. And I think it's the only monster worth getting. Seriously are these monsters really bad or is it me.

I might go for Hobkin, because of the Gorg cells in the book (looking good so far, over 2900 coins), buuut I still need Itzanami ...

@zwhole and when or where is hidden path

@lloyd-t-prendergast the discount times were neber released by sp but data mined by Taringa special discounts will be announced and I hope on for an estimate of times soon

It makes it really hard to get lucky even when you know the times of the discounts

@@marianne-van-es
You're repeating stuff everyone knows. Just saying it was easier before. Trying to give sp my two cents on the changes, and yes there was a change because the guys at taringa aren't able to do what they used to do. Hopefully they will figure it out, as it stands the game is a little unbalanced.

@lloyd-t-prendergast so your repeating isnt a problem and mine is

Dunn ra 20% discount on now

@insert-history-and-politics-here does Dun ra have final hour discount?

@abdul-aziz-ahmad we will see

Maze discount - 10 %

Maze discount now

Maze discount now

@lloyd-t-prendergast I think it's pointless to say it's unbalanced just because you're referring there isn't any discounts schedule to follow. Most players just spend their maze coins whenever there is a special 20% or 30% discount, if not try moving last day of the maze

@bellatrix
I think it is unbalanced if some players in different time zones can gain a benefit by using the discounts, especially when the discount seem(notice I said seem!) to be geared to the UTC time zone. Most of the discounts are early in the am(4 am. 5AM) or during normal working hours,(and I'm only talking for mysemg,in the EST time zone). so when I know ahead of time I can plan to be awake, or schedule my lunch or breaks for those times. But what I cant do is check every hour to see what's happening. I've rarely seen a discount in the evening hours, and I've only seen a weekend discount maybe twice.
I'm just trying to point out that some of us are adults with families and responsibilities, and are not able to be in the game 24 hrs a day. Yes it's our choice to play the game, but SP if wants us to continue playing they should find a way to mediate this for all, even if it means removing the discounts all together. (and maybe lowering the cost of the maze, etc.)

@lloyd-t-prendergast EST time is manageable. I have school, and I'm in est time zone, i still manage to snag the 30%discount

@bwang487
Your in school. I'm a working adult, with a family. Big difference.

And the point of my remarks werent for everyone to chime in and say 'hey I can get up at 4 am', it was directed to the SP and the devs to give them something to think about. So please dont try and make my experience trivial because yours was different.

Bottom line, do I have valid point or not? If you all are saying there is NOTHING AT ALL WRONG with the discounts across the different time zones, then I will drop the subject.

@bwang487 said in Dwarven Mines Maze:

@lloyd-t-prendergast EST time is manageable. I have school, and I'm in est time zone, i still manage to snag the 30%discount

Sorry I am with Lloyd here. I too am in the EST time zone and I agree most of the 20 or 30% discounts occur either in the middle of the night or during work hours. And since they are inconsistent and now unpublished it is much more difficult to be successful in these mazes.

Maze coins in monsterwood

10% maze discount now

These mazes are not what they used to be and have been ruined by greedy sp. We now get crappy monster at the start that cost too many coins. Total waste of time now. The single paths mazes are better but it won't take long before they are ruined by greed.

@gazza then I wonder how lots of f2p players have managed to get the last monster even r3? . . . Just have to unlock til you get to the monster you want to get, that does not mean necessarily spend more and get them. Last couple of maze monsters have been great, sometimes you have to grind all the way through to get good ones

@bellatrix agreed. Picking one of the top 2 monsters and going all in has worked well for me. I'm f2p and got lucky with timing on discounts to manage r2 (plus extra cells) Wang Zhou and he has been a rock star for me. I also picked up r2, almost 3, Olnir in the last maze. She is doing well enough and will be even better paired with Gorg and his shock status caster. I much prefer getting 1 monster with enough cells to rank than getting r0 monsters then spending gems and months collecting cells.

Do agree with @Lloyd-T-Prendergast regarding the discount timing though. I've been lucky in the past but this creates more resentment than excitement to find that I missed a 30% because of when I chose to log in, or can log in. I have zero desire to wake up at 4am to play a game.

@David-ML

If you go to Google and type 3pm CEST to PST (or your time zone) and it will convert for everyone who get confused by these timezones.

Btw 3pm CEST is 6am PST

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SP also shortened maze by 1 day. A few hours ago it said 6d21h left and now it says 5d19h left.

@marianne-van-es got about half a dozen pings for it very nice to get advanced notice, much appreciated, also at a reasonable time in my corner of the world

16 min left discount 10%now

@gronk23 really?

@keki14 But SP put maze coins into monsterwood

So nobody wants to talk about the fact these monsters are really bad? There's literally no use for them except to complete book chapters. They are no where close in power to the last 12-15 monsters released, in fact you have to go back to releases like Gelotron/Warspells/Baroness to find monsters in the same tier as this maze and Wasper. It's like they had some designs from 2017 laying around and decided to release them and see how they would do.

Last discount 20% it started 20 minutes late

@marianne-van-es see, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Got up, bought coins no discount. Ok. Last hour, so I went ahead and used them anyway. Restarted three times nothing. Come here to leave a comment and see your post that started late, go back to check and yes, it started, but with 30 min left. So even I waited I still wont have had the full hour. And I already used my coins.

So tell me again how this is not broken? I just spent money on coins, alot. So @fox please fix this, and @Marianne-van-Es stop spewing untrue facts. I feel like I just been robbed.

@lloyd-t-prendergast yes this nonsense of starting the last discount late when all other discounts start on the hour is another example of SP being intentionally dishonest with customers to scam them out of money. Then their cheerleaders go all over social media and gaslight the people upset by saying it’s actually great and they love it

@testcyp Absolutely sneaky tactics by sp/take 2 more and more players will start to distrust them I knew they were going to do it in last 20 min so didn’t affect me unbelievable by sp and only done to maximise profit.

No response huh, @Marianne-van-Es? You were online to tell us the discount was late. But other than that nothing?

@Bellatrix, not going to chime in and tell me I'm wrong?

@Fox, can you at least admit this was by design and not some random bug/issue?