In live duels opponent once possessed is just recharging.. not always but very often. Why is it done so, very frustrating

Also I picked up a few times Saulot and his mega possession move works right away and yet should be a subject to warm-up.

In general it is done good and fun but I would say rewards should be a little bit more to keep greater interest over time, may be a few gems for a last battle reward too because amount of time and efforts required to win 6 battles is a lot, requires to know a lot about monsters skills, stats and tactics and after a few duels i personally started to think if it is worth to win all 6 battles of another one just for a few elemental cells. I mean it is fun to do a few but for more kind of boring, at least for me...

May be SP can introduce bigger rewards and also a way to lose some too to make it more interesting, more competitive and more worth spending a lot of time on it.

For example higher rewards for each node but also removing 50% of accumulated rewards on each lose. Something like this would make more sense and keep more desire to come back again and spend some gems to do more duels.

if you are possessed and wait your turn out it recharges, its a flaw and reported

yuo know you can win tickets to grand duel which gives you very great rewards like nemesis souls whit which you can buy nemesis?

also the for me its attractive to fight with monsters i don't own

Yes I know about grand duels. And yes it is interesting to play with monsters I don't own.

However just to play and to win are different things. To play, I can just spend 4 free tokens a day to have a little fun. To win and go to grand duels I need to invest a lot of actual time and efforts.

And frankly speaking collecting nemesis souls to get a random nemesis or pay a lot more souls to get specific cells is not too appealing to me because in my opinion nemesis monsters are kind of outdated and investing a lot of efforts to get one is not for me, but this is my personal view, for a new players I am sure it is some kind of fun.

Also including food and gold in rewards indicates SP main target for classic duels are new players, isnt it?

Nemesis outdated

Samael plague and fever
Xiron Ruby
Warthak Mountain
Nadiel Pyro
Faraday obscure
Talos forgotten artifact

for me still all great monsters guess im on a different level of playing

It really doesn't matter outdated or not, just a personal opinion. I am not using any of them except nemesis dungeons, that's why for me there is no interest. For some other guys it is definitely opportunity to get nemesis F2P which is great too, no doubt in that.

But the point of this post is not about nemesis's but about making rewarding system a little bit better and a little bit more competitive, that`s all.

I don't really understand why not to make a little bit better rewards for each node and to remove some rewards for each lose?

What's with the player disconnected trying to reconnect anyone else had this I'm just about to win my 7th grand dual when this happens now over 20min of opponent trying to reconnect seems dodgy now my network connection timed out yeah right.

I haven't gotten stuck reconnecting, but I've gotten the DESYNCHRONIZED error a couple of times, where the battle ends and it doesn't count as a win or a loss. It's happened most often when I was moments away from winning, and it's very frustrating for a certain victory to suddenly disappear.

I almost wonder if it's happening when someone force closes the app as they're about to lose.

@callumarachnoid
Actually, I was just coming to report that, happened to me twice. I was forced to quit each time.
And it registered as a defeat each time, butcI didn't wait 20 mins, I quit the battle after maybe 5. But that shouldn't make a difference, something's wrong.

Only other thing I dont like is the 20 sec timer, kind of short when using monsters you may not own. But I get it.

So many issues with the way these duels work. Besides not being able to use any of the monsters/runes or relics you've spent all this time hatching/crafting & leveling. Lets take how it does the monster selection, why aren't people given the same pool of monsters to choose? I see teams I have no chance of beating with 3 monsters which I was unable to choose from. It's just another crap shoot right from selection, hope they allow you to choose good monsters or you just wasted your time and tokens. Additionally I've 2 days where when I was on the game it couldn't find me a match, just a 1 min wait for more than a hour at a time. Frustrating system is whack.

I kinda like the random monsters, random teams as well them not being my own monsters. I changes the dynamic and give you a chance to fight with monsters you dont have yet, a maybe help decide if you want them. And you keep fighting the same teams over and over.

sure you can change it to everybody have the same choices and what will you get? all will have the same team with the same runes and moves wow that will be entertaining

Am I the only one who hates it that a battle is decided by a speed tie (for example if both players have Wangzhou/Pierceid with same speed) ?
Or when you meet the same opponent and you lose again ?

I think this is the best thing to happen to the game in years its got flaws but its new. It just need slightly adjusting to get it right but its fun. Its way more fun than the time consuming monotonous collections etc in races

@medy you can always buy packs of 25 cells. it'll cost double to get a monster but if you did nemesis cell dungeons then you just need 50 nemesis souls. So if you don't want it to be random you can always get 200 souls and buy 100 cells

Player disconnected still not fixed just happened to me again player disconnect trying to reconnect for 10min can’t do anything apart from leave battle then I lose

@callumarachnoid yeah same this player was going to lose his nabuline has 473 hp and burning quicksands and ignite and their sammy is 12k with a bunch of status effects but nothings happening

I've contacted support, but it's been 2 days and they haven't done anything or replied. I wish they would ban those players

@stein Definitely, getting the same opponent who just spanked you is incredibly irritating, especially when you've been forced to use a team that has no chance against them.

Hi All,

For these new live duel battles, I believed there are lots of adjustments needed to be made.
I have tried several live duel battles against other players on Classic and Grand duel.
I found it so odd for Classic battle that since the cap of rune level are at level 6 (VI) and since it stated as Classic battle, why all newer monsters appeared in the classic era? Whoever got the newer monsters will mostly win the battles.

@star I don't understand classic vs dynamic, but the newer monsters are the main ones because they are part of the top monsters list

@bwang487
Sorry, I mistype . It should be Dynamic duel= Grand duel
Classic duel ( 6 matches) classic monsters vs. Grand duel (9 matches) newer monsters.
What I was trying to pointed out was the newer monsters shouldn't be in the classic duel.
Classic means classic monsters, which rune level capped at level VI.

@star it are just names
Classic are 6 Grand are 9
Im happy it are the same monsters because many I dont have/hatched or use because they are low ranked. To get to know them in Classic and helps me a lot in Gran, so for me I wouldent change that

bien parece Me

Lots of complaining here, for some odd reason.

I really like this addition. It allows everyone to play with all of the 'best' monsters on a level playing ground. Less developed players probably even have a slight advantage, because they still are used to (faster) rank 0 monster battles.

Yes, sometimes you get an 'inferior' choice of monsters. What does it matter? Next time you get a better selection.

I would love to see different themed editions. For example with only a selection of 'crap' monsters from the past, instead of all these shiny new toys I never heard of before.

I was fortunate to test it and i liked it then and I like it now its live.
I dont mind to lose because i learn Im not the world biggest strategist but learn much about monsters I dont own or dont use as I said earlier I really have fun and getting some stuff doing it currently on 33 nemesis souls and happy with them
I agree we should have a choice between getting the nemesis souls or elite souls but hope the change that in future

ps @Ekto-Gamat playing again

@marianne-van-es
The problem is Wangzhou and Mephisto exist. It would be much more enjoyable if there was a way to counter them.

@joshua-evans I beat both with my team

@marianne-van-es
Now try when you get a team that doesn’t have area dodge or nanovirus.

@joshua-evans sure I had a good team but not an op team, I lost plent of Grand duels in my first weekend because of a "bad hand" but also because of wrong strat

@marianne-van-es
I’m just a bit annoyed at how I have done about 7 grand live battles this weekend and never got past 4 wins (I did quite well considering I had no per, no ner, no megataunt, no area dodge etc) On the whole the gamemode is great. I’m just fed up of losing because of bad rng. Strategy helps but sometimes it just won’t suffice.

@joshua-evans so what do you suggest should change?

@marianne-van-es
The gamemode was great, I’m just annoyed at how many times I only get offered two sub par deniers, a few tanks that never get used by anyone and a few attackers or supports. Wangzhou is also a bit overpowered if you compare him to other deniers, he can get monsters down to below 30 stamina with his first attack. Mephisto is annoying but there is plenty of per in the game and I have beat a few mega taunt teams without per. It is great, just sometimes there is the problem of getting bad monsters (quite common) or getting a good team and being destroyed by a Wangzhou and Jasastur.

@joshua-evans still no solution
My suggestion to SP is dont allow certain combinations but thats it. I love the challenge and love to to learn

Is it true that it's a coin flip to decide who goes first at start of battle if two equal monsters both have same speed?

When me and my opponent both have same deniers with all same runes, I notice that most of the time he goes first. I got to go first once, though, so I assume I just had bad luck vs. some other unknown mechanics that may impact turn order. Is this correct?

@monsterbath yes same speed is 50% you get in first

I really love and enjoy this new feature in spite of sometimes not getting a "good" selection of monsters comparing to the oppponent but it doesn't happen all the time. Besides the rewards we can get, learning and getting to know more how to make the best out of what I have in terms of strategies it's definetely a plus

Many people complain about different parts of the game but with these duels I think SP deserves a nice thank you for a job well done. I think everybody loves this duel mode. It's very exciting and I think a lot of people look forward to it every day.

However, duel tickets need to be more available than they are now.

It would be interesting if you offered a weekly dungeon that is based on tournament rules with rewards being grand duel tickets.

As I said above I think its the best thing to happen to the game in ages. A little tweaking could make it amazing. Like monsterbath said maybe a dungeon for coins. Also how about an extra pool to pick from? Once u have picked your 3 monsters you then get an extra pool to swap one out? This would help get a better balance to our team

If I could give you my tickets I would, I am honestly not interested in this feature...not in mood for another bait and switch.

Jasastur's thousand forms attack does not apply megaposession, doesnt even say miss or posession blocked

@wiskey-jaro post in bugs

My feedback on this is its too hard to win 6 fights to gain just one super ticket. You then have to win 24 to get one chance to win a few souls IF you are lucky enough to win 9 times... Hmm... I like the feature a lot but this seems futile at best.

@ibobs72 I want at least 2 for a 6 but I think its better they start it hard than they balance it to worse

I just want to know before i resume doing grand duel have they prevented the people from exploiting the quit to make the enemy lose

@bwang487 said in Duels:

I just want to know before i resume doing grand duel have they prevented the people from exploiting the quit to make the enemy lose

I played it yesterday. Did not notice anything odd.