So it will cost 120 gems to buy the new island and you will automatically increase the max habitats to 100?

@esentis Don’t think that’s what it means I think it will be a cash purchase and sweetener is u get 120 gems, anything but buying the island for gold will be another astonishing decision by sp and will just prove yet again that it’s a cash game now and may will be the final straw for a lot of players.

@callumarachnoid yeah, rightfully so

@Ekto-Gamat I guess money helps preventing the game from breaking

@esentis said in NEW Premium Island:

So it will cost 120 gems to buy the new island and you will automatically increase the max habitats to 100?

No, it meant you can get 120 gems for getting rid of debris and yes, if you buy the island (for money) you'll get to increase the max habitats to 100

@bellatrix absolutely shocking decision by take 2 but at this point not unexpected.

@callumarachnoid although I'm pretty sure there'll be ppl who are going to buy it, my case I'll pass. For me space shouldn't be something we must pay for if new monsters are released monthly. I got to the point where unlocking a slot costs me a bunch of gems

@bellatrix you got to that point now?

@keki14 lol no already been like this a while ago as well as reaching lvl 150, so no more vault keys either

Worst part about is not that it costs money, its 2k after all duh. But we were told that increasing max habitats isn't feasible due to hardware/technical restrictions.

Honestly can’t believe how people are reacting to this seems people are happy to pay price for an island we should be getting for free sp really do know there fan base utterly crazy to me that we got excuse after excuse about space and how they couldn’t do it so bring out a vault and guess what, yep it’s going to cost u gems and now they have squeezed everything out of that. They now say actually it won’t break game if we give u a new island but u will have to purchase it .

£15 for more space!!!! A total joke unless they throw in a decent monster aswell. I hope no one buys it but I bet they do

@esentis that's what i've been spending my last half hour, i'm trying to find the post where they said the game can't support more space * rolling eyes* ..for the life of me can't find it when i need it lol but i remember that quite well when everybody was complaining about space they said can't be done...well , ...it can be done with a bit of incentive $$, and no, i don't think this is the money that will keep the game going( there's a MW event practically all the time and non stop breeding events, gimme a break , also...it seems there are different prices for the island ...( FB info , i didn't update so dunno how much mine is ) )...as to whom will buy...just watch top 50 teams in races and new to the game P2P will buy pretty much everything you throw at them good or not so that's that lol

@alex-pisi Exactly! Of course they will buy it, some people are spending hundred of dollars to the game, 15,99€ is nothing to them. What I hate most is monetizing aspects of the game that should be rightfully free! Remember when we had to pay gems to change skills ?? Well this one feels the same, paywall behind storing monsters in a monster collecting game...

@esentis A great point this is a monster collecting game which now we have to pay for the privilege to do astonishing. You just know the next thing will be well the farms really need a farmer to grow food so if u want that u will need to pay his wages, now as ridiculous as that sounds I would not put it past them this game is not the game I started playing and is changing only for the worst.

This is a total kick in the teeth. Unbelievable. All your points are valid.

I just convinced my little cousin to quit the game.

I'm happy for him, this is no longer a game for children.

So I really won't buy but many that are complaining about it will, so it will be a success prob. I will stop playing as soon as I dont enjoy the game anymore, which will be soon I think because all things need new monsters:

• helping my team

• breeding events (old to breed with and getting new to access a key or something similar)

• ch 5 (for me a way to get a ranked new monster and a diamond relic)

Prob more but since im on vacation in a beautiful country, cant think about more

Let me be clear I love this game, I love my team, I love the hard working collegues (mods on forum @Bellatrix @Nynaevelan and discord @sonnorcteer Helen Alex) I love @Fox @Carlos @Varuna @HiMyNameIsJon and all others that I missed and I love a great part of this community on this Forum, Discord and FB. But this is not DC its ML. To play this game you need new L monsters, maybe I will ask @Ekto-Gamat what do I do to be in that place and really enjoy this game without more space. Im only sad (or relieved maybe), its happening now so I can only watch it happening.
All will say its out of greed, yes it maybe is greed, but greed to continue the game not the greed most players think it is, devs dont ride Ferrari's and live in mansions or they hide that part for me they take the sub or walk to their homes.
So Im dual about this I want ML to be successful but I don't like this path. I hope it all works out becauce... All is said already

I think this is a clear indication that they don't care about the players or the game, just about making money.

I tend to agree with Marianne's sentiments, although I'll be a little more harsh. I do very much enjoy this game and intend to continue playing. I'm not out of space yet, but I inevitably will be. The biggest fun of this game for me is collecting, so if I can't do that, the game ends for me.

I'm MOST definitely not spending $15 for a temporary storage solution. First and foremost, storing/housing all these monsters is a core mechanic of this game that should not cost a dime, in my opinion. I know with a F2P game model, there have to microtransactions and things that encourage/incentivize payments, but this ain't it. The Vault was a step in the right direction, although spending gems to unlock slots was insane. Then the Vault Keys were another step in the right direction, but then they limited those!

My honest to goodness initial reaction to hearing about the price was busting out laughing. I'm fine with resources and in-game currency (gold/food/gems) costing actual money. I'm fine with some chests and offers costing actual money. But no core feature of the game should ever cost actual money.

Also, the old response to "why no more islands" was that many users' devices couldn't handle more. Well it's been a few more years since then and devices have improved. There's also the battery saver mode in the settings that freezes all monsters in habitats, no walking around. You could make that automatically kick on (and prevent disabling) once a player has a certain number of habitats. Heck, I already use it, it makes the game load faster. And, like others have said, if we can pay for the privilege of 10 extra habitats, it means the game can handle 10 extra habitats. That response doesn't track anymore and continued use of it is starting to sound dishonest.

Social Point, I really do love this game, but you guys have got to get it together.

My favourite part of this new island is the sales pitch on the popup "The answer to the lack of space issue is here!" I'm not certain I would call additional space for 6 legendary habitats (24 monsters) a solution unless there is going to be a monster cull. This answer still does not allow for all current monsters to be stored in habitats, let alone the new ones constantly coming in.

The aspect of the game that I get the most enjoyment out of is live duels and I find that very telling. I enjoy live duels mostly because it's a even playing field. I can't field a team of lvl 130 monsters with full X runes and fully leveled diamond relics. Live duels flatten all that out so we get down to strategy and fun. The fact that I most enjoy the part of the game that does not involve the monsters I 'earned' and ranked and equipped and spent time on is not a good sign for me.

I really wish ML put more effort into making the premium pass a viable option. If I enjoy the game enough, I'm on board with paying a membership if I get something useful out of it. Double food and gold is weak. I've said in the past, I might pay for things like 1 extra slot in Dr. Victors (helps with races), the ability to cancel eggs for free, or reduced times for hatch, breed, build, etc. What the premium pass is now is equivalent to an amusement park that sells a special pass but instead of front of the line access, your drinks are twice as large.

An island for cash money is a disappointment.

I can understand they moved to this direction it worked on DC and it will probably work on ML. What saddens me is the fact I cant place my 91st (elem) habitat, I have the room and it would longen my stay.

@marianne-van-es said in NEW Premium Island:

I can understand they moved to this direction it worked on DC and it will probably work on ML. What saddens me is the fact I cant place my 91st (elem) habitat, I have the room and it would longen my stay.

Do you get a 91rst if you do not buy the island, i thought the extra 10 habs were only for those that purchased the island?

@nynaevelan said in NEW Premium Island:

@marianne-van-es said in NEW Premium Island:

I can understand they moved to this direction it worked on DC and it will probably work on ML. What saddens me is the fact I cant place my 91st (elem) habitat, I have the room and it would longen my stay.

Do you get a 91rst if you do not buy the island, i thought the extra 10 habs were only for those that purchased the island?

As far as I understood, you must buy the Island in order to have those extra 10 Nyn

There are many things that ML has better than DC but when it comes to space and storage DC is the front runner. The Dragonarium aka Vault is much cheaper to buy slots. The habs have a token system which allows you to slowly, very slowly upgrade habitats that hold 4 up to 9 total. And of course the premium islands, which we have 3 of, ranging in price from $9.99 to $14.99. I am not going to get into the debate over cost, whether it should be free and all the other reasons why these are not a good idea for you all. Nor will I go into the f2p vs p2p debate. Personally all I will say is I am in the group that likes reasonable purchase options. I agree that space should be more readily available, I also agree that it should not cost as much as it does in ML. Sorry but I am not of the opinion that it should be free. Yes it is a core part of the game but it is a collecting game, at least for me it is, and as such the larger your collection gets the more decisions you will need to make on how to accommodate it. My biggest problem with these costs both here and in DC is that they do not offer a good system to collect the resources in order to "pay" for all these features that cost so much. They should have different pay tiers as they do with the original islands, whether you use gold, gems or real money. It should not be one or the other. The more you pay the more you get. For instance the premium island could be for gold but it is a blank island, pay with gems and you get 5 extra hab slots and maybe 60 gems, pay with real money and you get the 10 extra hab slots and the 120 gems. In this way you are getting the funds from all your players not just the ones willing to pay. SPs biggest problem is they are thinking in the short term and going for the few who will pay rather than the larger community base that will not. Ironically they keep telling us this is a long term game and we should plan for the long term but they keep going for the short term themselves.

Woo sorry didn't mean to go off on that tangent, I just wanted to give some perspective from the DC side who started this premium island stuff....oh and the Vault idea also came from DC, but our slots only cost 50 gems for the most expensive ones...not going to talk too much on that before they screw us over and change it to MLs pay system.

Continue on with your discussion....

I'm just wondering . . . The game is going to continue releasing new monsters monthly, even if someone buys the Ancient Island to increase the max limit, sooner or later will end up with the same problem: running out of space since this is not a "permanent" solution for the space issue, and not even counting all the unique monsters in storage that haven't been hatched. Making Vault Keys accessible whether is for gold or getting them through all the events we have would be a relief somehow instead of just having to pay more gems each time we unlock a couple of slots til it gets to a point where the price is ridiculous for just 1 slot. I'm lvl 150, and I can't get any more Vault Keys since that's the max lvl and got nowhere to get them unless I purchase them, like an offer that came out not so long ago which made me speechless since it was told that we could get them in events and no sign of that.

@nynaevelan no thats what I mean. Im so sad I dont even get to place a 91st habitat, I mean what harm would it cause I stay a litttle longer but at this rate it will be closer to quitting I guess

I fully agree with everyone who said a 'core' feature of the game should not cost any money.

A further thing that annoys me about the Premium island, is that it is just hanging there like a gigantic piece of rock, overshadowing my actual islands and habitats and making them look smaller! Could SP please make the Premium Island look smaller for the people who did not unlock it?

Lol, naw I'm sure they want it in your face, tempting you to buy it.

@ekto-gamat

Yes, exactly that. No thanks, I'll pass on your offer. Now could you please make it back to the way it was for me? I liked the prior zoom level. Now everything gets too small and so much of the screen is wasted space where you are waving a $ carrot in front of my nose. No, I'm not buying it and would appreciate it if you didn't keep shoving it in my face every time I play, just to rub my face in it.

@monsterbath You can change your zoom level yourself. Just pinch and expand. Don't like the max zoom out? Zoom in. I don't understand this criticism.

@ekto-gamat who else thinks that the new island is too big?

I DO !!!

Totally agree with @Ekto-Gamat if they insist on selling it for hard earned cash, then provide the option to just get rid of it for those that don't want to spend their money on it. It's a useless, ugly looming shadow that just annoys the hell out of me

@david-ml many complain but still buy

@david-ml said in NEW Premium Island:

Totally agree with @Ekto-Gamat if they insist on selling it for hard earned cash, then provide the option to just get rid of it for those that don't want to spend their money on it. It's a useless, ugly looming shadow that just annoys the hell out of me

It's in the upper corner, while I get the complaints why stress yourself over it. Just ignore it. It bothers me that it doesn't zoom in or out but not enough to raise my blood pressure.

@nynaevelan You're the second one I've seen mention the zoom. Mine zooms in and out just fine, is zooming not working for some?

@sansot maybe they don't like the new far-out zooming?

@sansot said in NEW Premium Island:

@nynaevelan You're the second one I've seen mention the zoom. Mine zooms in and out just fine, is zooming not working for some?

Not for me, everything zooms except the premium island.

Hi everyone,
We will have a look and see how to make the island a bit more blended in. Originally, it was supposed to be at the bottom right so that's why it looks a bit strange.

Make it free while you at it so the players can continue playing and in turn spend money but I refuse to while sp continues this underhand money grab. Its could a loss leader in the marketing world

@sansot

The zooming works, but instead of being a one-shot where you zoom out to perfect level in .02 seconds, it now requires you to try and rezoom carefully to not have the tiny effect. So an instant 100% act of .02 seconds has now become a tedious and annoying waste of time trying to get it right. Maybe it's my phone or I'm not too good with touch screens but it drives me nuts to get it right.

@fox well, that explains some things

@keki14 yeah..some things, ignore the elephant in the room lol