This post will make the assumption that you get the heroic dragon out of a given heroic race. If that is something you need help on, see the documentation and discussion in the heroic race threads each month. I am here to work through some numbers that I've been running...

As stated elsewhere, my goal is to get the next heroic dragon and earn all the orbs from both heroic quests that come after the race. For the next month, that is my primary goal in the game. I will work on other things along the way, but I will abandon anything that gets in the way.

This thread will document my journey.

There are two reasons I'm making these posts. First: I want to keep myself accountable to working toward this goal. Second: I want to give some info to others about what I did, as well as sharing tips along the way (and perhaps gathering some from the rest of you as feedback now).

Anyway, I want to start off with some cold hard numbers. From **, we see that it costs a total of 21.16M food to reach level 40. We need to make this jump on three separate dragons, so we need to have amassed about 64M food by the time we finish the Heroic Race. Further, we learned from @michael-lon that we must empower all three dragons before we can complete the quest to get the second set of orbs ( https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/14452/heroic-race-jan-30-feb-10/102 ) for a cost of approximately 170 gems.

Since I currently have 29.1M food, I need to add 35M food within approximately 30 days in order to meet my goal. In my next post, I will explore some ways in which that can be done.

Final notes: I am starting on this journey at Level 55, with 29.1M food, 5.89M gold, and 20 gems. I will hold out the possibility of redeeming $3.99 go get an influx of 120 gems at the end of the month, but will not spend any other money on this journey along the way. However, I will be earning gems through various tasks from the Dragon TV island.

P.S. There are various food cost listings for DC posted around. The ** food calculator is the only one I found that gives numbers which line up with the costs I see on my dragons in game.

Edit: Live links as well as unconfirmed third party sites are not permitted, removed.

This is interesting but it is assuming that you do not have the other two required dragons and they are not leveled or empowered prior to the end of the heroic race. That cost also assumes that you either do not have anything currently empowering or you start both quests off at the same time, at the beginning when the quests are first opened.

With that said, if you are short the food then you will either need to grow it in the time between each race, assuming you can and you do not feed anything between each race each month or you buy it with either food or gems. If you buy it with gems then it is 300 gems for 13.6m of food which raises your cost to @1500 or more gems to feed 3 dragons. Sorry but I do not know the numbers for the cost for real money deals since I never buy them I never pay attention to them. You are also not accounting for the food that will be needed to progress in the race which will race what you need in food.

But just with these numbers it would not be cost effective (to me) to try to go for the second heroic quest if you do not have the other 2 required dragons either already leveled or empowered. This most recent heroic dragon and quests cost me 543 gems, 375 of which because I started the second one late but this is not something I plan to do for each heroic, it would just be to expensive in the long run.

Sorry but based on your levels of food and gems right now I am not seeing this as a realistic goal to accomplish in a month. I could be wrong but just based on my costs for this race, I think you need to increase your targets in gems and food. You do not have the gold to grow the food so it is going to cost you more in either gems or real money to reach your goal in a month.

Hi, there is another Heroic double quests - for High Diabolical.

You need Franky and Mad Scientist. Mad Scientist has been rewarded at least 3x already. Hopefully you have it.

Franky is breedable.

I am trying to do it but it is asking again for level 40 dragons to complete quest II. Sigh......

@nynaevelan said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

This is interesting but it is assuming that you do not have the other two required dragons and they are not leveled or empowered prior to the end of the heroic race. That cost also assumes that you either do not have anything currently empowering or you start both quests off at the same time, at the beginning when the quests are first opened.

With that said, if you are short the food then you will either need to grow it in the time between each race, assuming you can and you do not feed anything between each race each month or you buy it with either food or gems. If you buy it with gems then it is 300 gems for 13.6m of food which raises your cost to @1500 or more gems to feed 3 dragons. Sorry but I do not know the numbers for the cost for real money deals since I never buy them I never pay attention to them. You are also not accounting for the food that will be needed to progress in the race which will race what you need in food.

But just with these numbers it would not be cost effective (to me) to try to go for the second heroic quest if you do not have the other 2 required dragons either already leveled or empowered. This most recent heroic dragon and quests cost me 543 gems, 375 of which because I started the second one late but this is not something I plan to do for each heroic, it would just be to expensive in the long run.

Sorry but based on your levels of food and gems right now I am not seeing this as a realistic goal to accomplish in a month. I could be wrong but just based on my costs for this race, I think you need to increase your targets in gems and food. You do not have the gold to grow the food so it is going to cost you more in either gems or real money to reach your goal in a month.

I agree with most of this, however there are a few things I want to look at today, and a few things I want to point out:

Today I am going to look at the cost of producing food. I believe that ultimately, you are correct: I do not have enough to make the progress that I need to make for this to be done with my current resources alone. I currently have around 2k gems outstanding in tasks at the DragonTV Island. I expect around half of that to expire before I can redeem it, but if a big chunk of what I do end up with ends up going to purchase food, that could suffice. For now though, that's not part of my plan.

You are also correct that I am not considering the cost of food throughout the race, or during other quests. However, I contend that taken independent of any other leveling, I can chose methods that are food-positive. Every race I have done has led to an increase in food from the race itself, not a decrease, since the feeding tasks can all be done on low level dragons. I expect other events to fit that pattern as well (or at least to be able to participate in them in this way).

@gemspender said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

Hi, there is another Heroic double quests - for High Diabolical.

You need Franky and Mad Scientist. Mad Scientist has been rewarded at least 3x already. Hopefully you have it.

Franky is breedable.

I am trying to do it but it is asking again for level 40 dragons to complete quest II. Sigh......

I'm too new

I do not have any of the three. I have 25 orbs of High Diabolical, and he is atop my list of Heroic Dragons to get, but I don't have him yet.

Best wishes on your pursuit to getting yours though! I'm glad I won't be facing any 2-star Diabolicals any time soon

@gemspender said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

Hi, there is another Heroic double quests - for High Diabolical.

You need Franky and Mad Scientist. Mad Scientist has been rewarded at least 3x already. Hopefully you have it.

Franky is breedable.

I am trying to do it but it is asking again for level 40 dragons to complete quest II. Sigh......

These requirements for the heroic quests has been the same for the last 3 quests so I am assuming they will remain so, at least for the next few ones, they do not seem to be big on changing requirements.

@jgb said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

@gemspender said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

Hi, there is another Heroic double quests - for High Diabolical.

You need Franky and Mad Scientist. Mad Scientist has been rewarded at least 3x already. Hopefully you have it.

Franky is breedable.

I am trying to do it but it is asking again for level 40 dragons to complete quest II. Sigh......

I'm too new

I do not have any of the three. I have 25 orbs of High Diabolical, and he is atop my list of Heroic Dragons to get, but I don't have him yet.

Best wishes on your pursuit to getting yours though! I'm glad I won't be facing any 2-star Diabolicals any time soon

Are you sure because Diabolical also had a quest after his race....so several of us already have a 2 star Diabolical? I have faced him but consider yourself lucky if no one in your leagues or arenas are showing up with one yet.

@gemspender said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

Hi, there is another Heroic double quests - for High Diabolical.

You need Franky and Mad Scientist. Mad Scientist has been rewarded at least 3x already. Hopefully you have it.

Franky is breedable.

I am trying to do it but it is asking again for level 40 dragons to complete quest II. Sigh......

... mine is requiring level 30 dragons not level 40 ?? ...

@dragonlove said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

@gemspender said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

Hi, there is another Heroic double quests - for High Diabolical.

You need Franky and Mad Scientist. Mad Scientist has been rewarded at least 3x already. Hopefully you have it.

Franky is breedable.

I am trying to do it but it is asking again for level 40 dragons to complete quest II. Sigh......

... mine is requiring level 30 dragons not level 40 ?? ...

By the time you get to the last stage it will want a 1 star level 40 team. I am stopping on the stage for level 35 dragons this time, I've used up all my Rescue food already.

@nynaevelan said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

@jgb said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

Best wishes on your pursuit to getting yours though! I'm glad I won't be facing any 2-star Diabolicals any time soon

Are you sure because Diabolical also had a quest after his race....so several of us already have a 2 star Diabolical? I have faced him but consider yourself lucky if no one in your leagues or arenas are showing up with one yet.

Very few single-star heroics are in play where I end up in the arenas. Recall that I just upgraded my dragon roost to surpass level 30 as the max level for my dragons.

Which is the one of two reasons that I am delaying this quest...

As you noted, the resources I am at aren't where they need to be for this goal. Today seemed like a typical day, and I brought in about 500k food for the day. But to get from where I am to the point that I'm ready for the 2-star quest, I would need to pull in double that, at minimum.

Second, I will have to spend a significant amount of food in order to upgrade my dragon roost a final time, to allow for evolving beyond level 35. Even if I was earning at double the rate I am now, that wouldn't provide for this stepping stone.

Thus I will delay the quest until I have things more prepared. I will consider it to be a stepping stone to get the dragon roost where upgraded while maintaining enough of a balance to get the next heroic as a one-star (as I did with the Ethereal this month). I will also look at the best ways to upgrade my gold generation, since doubling that over the course of a month seems plausible and would lead to the ability to get much closer to the numbers I will need.

So... Yesterday I finished the legendary tier of the arena. Up to this point, my Lvl 30 squads have been enough to go undefeated about 80% of the time, and have won about 90%.

Now I've moved into the Master Arenas. I won my first two battles there, last night, before Sea ended. This morning, I woke up to see matches of light elements where I was paired up against Lvl 60 4-star dragons. So much for considering arena tasks to be easy wins... Definitely not ready for this level of competition.

@jgb said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

So... Yesterday I finished the legendary tier of the arena. Up to this point, my Lvl 30 squads hasn't have been enough to go undefeated about 80% of the time, and have won about 90%.

Now I've moved into the Master Arenas. I won my first two battles there, last night, before Sea ended. This morning, I woke up to see matches of light elements where I was paired up against Lvl 60 4-star dragons. So much for considering arena tasks to be easy wins... Definitely not ready for this level of competition.

In the beginning of a season you are paired against everyone. Wait a few hours before starting to give the hard core and high level players to get ahead of you. I have over 1200 dragons and I never start right away, the arenas are not that important to me so I always wait before starting.

@nynaevelan said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

@jgb said in Getting My First Two Star Heroic Dragon:

So... Yesterday I finished the legendary tier of the arena. Up to this point, my Lvl 30 squads hasn't have been enough to go undefeated about 80% of the time, and have won about 90%.

Now I've moved into the Master Arenas. I won my first two battles there, last night, before Sea ended. This morning, I woke up to see matches of light elements where I was paired up against Lvl 60 4-star dragons. So much for considering arena tasks to be easy wins... Definitely not ready for this level of competition.

In the beginning of a season you are paired against everyone. Wait a few hours before starting to give the hard core and high level players to get ahead of you. I have over 1200 dragons and I never start right away, the arenas are not that important to me so I always wait before starting.

Even tonight, I'm finding myself unable to compete with the second matchup it gives me once I've won the first one.

I've decided that I'm spending arena matches intentionally losing so that I can fall back down and have at least a few winnable battles for completing tasks. Maybe by the time I make it back up to Masters, I'll be able to handle the competition that remains.