I want to share this: COLOSSUS ISLAND
We can not get all dragons in this quest without spending money, we can get 3 out of 4 new ones

• to do this follow these paths
  Cosmo 3 steps
  Headstrong to the end
  Forestry 17 steps
  Heart 18 steps
  Wingspan to the end
  Frost 21 steps
  Big face 25 steps
  Tailwind to the end
  Total cost is 61830 and we can collect 63000, we got 300 free at start so total of 63300 WITHOUT extra coins from cinema or paths - it is possible to get heart dragon also if needed with these (maybe one more depending how many extra you get)

I want to get Cosmo, need it for one of the tournaments

Thank you Bettina! Dissapointing that I couldn't Headstrong in the happy hour. Not sure if I'll even get a shot at breeding Wonder now, but oh well!

My spreadsheet shows slightly different numbers.

Total available is 22 days * 3 collects per day * 1000 per collect + 300 start = 66300 available. This does not count any you may get from the cinema, which will be different for each player.

The following costs do include points received along the paths since these are the same for everybody.
Cost for first 3 new dragons: 60680 so no discount required.
Cost for first 8 dragons (new and old): 70830 or 63747 will a 10% happy hour discount.
Cost for first 3 new, Frost and Bigface: 65320 Therefore you can get any two of the old dragons prior to Tailwind, in addition to 3 new dragons, even without a discount.

There are 5 sets of fights along the paths to get to Tailwind, so I would advise not waiting until the last day before moving.

@skidragon I think you should change 22 days by 21 days: from 7 till 28 August there are 21 days (not 22). And in this way, the total figure changes as @Bettina-Löffler had written.

@LuisK said in Colossus Island:

@skidragon I think you should change 22 days by 21 days: from 7 till 28 August there are 21 days (not 22). And in this way, the total figure changes as @Bettina-Löffler had written.

You have to count both the first and last days. So the math is 28 - 6, not 28 - 7, therefore 22 is correct. Doing it by week you have 7 through 13, 14 through 20, 21 through 27, plus the 28th; therefore 3 * 7 + 1 = 22.

@skidragon The tricky thing is that you can't count the complete 24 hours of 7 August and 28 August, because the event started, for example, 7 August at 07:00 AM and is finishing 28 August at 07:00 AM.

@Bettina-Löffler said in Colossus Island:

I want to share this: COLOSSUS ISLAND
We can not get all dragons in this quest without spending money, we can get 3 out of 4 new ones

• to do this follow these paths
  Cosmo 3 steps
  Headstrong to the end
  Forestry 17 steps
  Heart 18 steps
  Wingspan to the end
  Frost 21 steps
  Big face 25 steps
  Tailwind to the end
  Total cost is 61830 and we can collect 63000, we got 300 free at start so total of 63300 WITHOUT extra coins from cinema or paths - it is possible to get heart dragon also if needed with these (maybe one more depending how many extra you get)

If is taken in account the free points you collect along the paths of those 8 dragons, the total you can collect is 64480 points. If additionally you can add 100 points from cinema, the total count is 64580 points.

In this way is possible to get Headstrong, Wingspan, Tailwind and Cosmo:
Cosmo to the end
Headstrong to the end
Forestry 17 steps
Heart 18 steps
Wingspan to the end
Frost 21 steps
Big face 25 steps
Tailwind to the end

Total cost for those is 64570.

@LuisK said in Colossus Island:

@skidragon The tricky thing is that you can't count the complete 24 hours of 7 August and 28 August, because the event started, for example, 7 August at 07:00 AM and is finishing 28 August at 07:00 AM.

You are correct. Thank you.
Therefore you can get the first 3 new dragons and any one other (prior to Tailwind) without a discount.

@skidragon The in game counter started with 20 days and 23 hours. So it was 21 days. My math is correct. Yours is wrong.

Does anyone else have a problem with losing green discs or whatever the current collection items are called? Yesterday morning I had 2002. When I got home from work I had 1948. Today I had 500 this morning and now I have only 449. That's a little over 100 lost discs. I try to make sure that I don't close the game too soon after collecting so that the changes get saved. This morning I waited about 30 minutes before closing. I think this has also been happening in other events.

I would send in a ticket, but last time I sent a ticket (2 invisible dragons) I was accused of being a hacker & technical support said she could reset my game to solve the problem & I could keep playing if I promised not to cheat anymore. I turned down her request to reset my game. So I'm afraid to contact support. I don't trust them now.

Did anyone know about this? I was not planning on finishing Forestry, I was gonna try it but uh no that would mean I couldn't finish for free, but I might go back if I get enough coins in the cinema.

@Nynaevelan As far as I know Heart and Forestry also count when you got them before from another quest. They just must be there on your island.

@Bettina-Löffler said in Colossus Island:

@Nynaevelan As far as I know Heart and Forestry also count when you got them before from another quest. They just must be there on your island.

Good to know, hmm now let me check to make sure they are out of the Dragonarium if they are in there.

Pretty glad I didn't waste gems on Silly when he was in those card packs! Sure won't be doing any of them in the future either.

Guess I spoke too soon. It looks like Silly and the 15 gems will only be available until tomorrow, and should require real money. So another thing that looked like a real nice thing for SP to do turns into a cash grab.

@BrenDC Some people got the reward already.

@Bettina-Löffler Looks like that was a mistake, and having the Dragons already won't count now either!

Sorry it's hard to read, but that's basically what it says.

@BrenDC I saw that. But I know people who got it with forestry and heart from former quests... and without claiming wingspan. I won`t ask the support if that is ok.

No way to Claim all 4 Dragons without real Money.
Heart and Headstrong are 8.000 coins each, Foresty is 6.000 coins, and Wingspan is 14.000 coins, so alltogether my Count is 36.000 for all 4... I have 23.000 right now. Bummer.-.

I'll prefer to wait until there may be another Discount. I missed the first one.

The mini collect can be completed without spending money.
Total available is 12 days * 3 collects per day * 1000 per collect + 300 start = 36,300
Cost is 35780, including the 170 to get the key on Cosmo's path and the 390 points you will collect along the paths.

This will leave you 180 short for getting Tailwind, but that can easily be made up though Happy Hours and/or coins from the cinema.

@skidragon But the event started 7 days ago, not 12 days ago...
Am I missing something???

Does anyone know if there will be another Happy Hour and when?
Thanks.

Bottom line is that some players got the bonus for free by doing nothing, while others are being forced to claim Dragons we already earned to get it. Just like the VIP Dragon and other things, SP have created an uneven playing field.

Also there's a new card pack out today that will help you fill your storage with Dandelion Dragons for 15 gems each.

@BrenDC said in Colossus Island:

Bottom line is that some players got the bonus for free by doing nothing, while others are being forced to claim Dragons we already earned to get it. Just like the VIP Dragon and other things, SP have created an uneven playing field.

Also there's a new card pack out today that will help you fill your storage with Dandelion Dragons for 15 gems each.

I don't understand this statement, you are not being forced to claim the old dragons, you get it with the two new ones. Others only had tho have forestry and heart on their islands.

And you are not forced to fill your storage with dandelions.....just DON'T BUY THEM.

How is this an uneven playing field, everyone has the opportunity to buy, if you choose not to, you have made the choice to put yourself at a disadvantage. They gave you the opportunity you passed on it. For example i do not buy VIPs, i am not angry at those who did, these are the consequences of my choice and i have to live with them.

I'm sorry butt if people choose to be play4free, play4pay or anywhere in between they cannot complain that others who play differently than them are getting better advantages.

I paid many gems trying to get Ocean Lord, i didnt succeed. Am i unhappy about that, yes. Am i mad at SP or other players who got it, no. Ok maybe a little mad at SP, but that it the nature of the gamble. If this is not a risk you want to take then perhaps you needed to reevaluate. We all are making choices about what is acceptable to us based on the parameters we are given. Complaining about everything or stating everything is unfair is untrue and frankly unrealistic.

@LuisK said in Colossus Island:

Does anyone know if there will be another Happy Hour and when?
Thanks.

No one knows, off you are waiting for one then save your coins. Be careful though many paths have fights that you needed tho get through.

@Nynaevelan You must have missed the statement from the DC FB page that I posted. We have to collect all 4 Dragons whether we have Forestry and/or Heart or not. And like I said, some people didn't have to collect anything. So how is that fair?

As for the card packs, of course we don't have to buy them. We also don't have to play the game, but we love to and the game and SP would die if we didnt. I don't think a reasonable chance at these and maybe something a little better than a dozen Dandelion Dragons is asking too much.

@BrenDC I think it is just wrong to think we have to get everything as soon as it pops up. I will buy one card pack every day. And if I wont get dream...I wont. That doesnt hurt. It will come around again somewhen. Social Point improved the game in so many ways. I think we have no reason to cry.

@tom13 said in Colossus Island:

@skidragon But the event started 7 days ago, not 12 days ago...
Am I missing something???

You can use the coins you will collect during the rest of the mini-event as well as the coins you have now. The mini-event started 7 days into the island event and runs for 5 days; therefore 7 + 5 = 12 days.

@Bettina-Löffler Never said anything about having to get everything right away. I was simply stating that it's extremely difficult to get for some people, and when you don't, you don't really get anything of value compared to what you're spending.

I've been playing this game long enough to remember when you could get almost everything for free provided you put in the effort. These mistakes where they have to change rules in the middle of quests, VIP Dragons go on sale to some and not others, and this latest one never used to happen either. I don't think the two things are unrelated.

@BrenDC what vip offers are not for everyone, are you referring to the VIP deals with dragon and gems? I believe that offer is only offered to anyone who actually made previous purchases before. Other than that everyone gets the same offers. The only things i am aware are not offered to everyone are those beginner calendars and maps. And honestly they give more deals to newbies than they do to vets, so they are the ones with the advantages not us.

And yes i miss the events where you can finish them but honestly when you look back there have been more with these incompleteable formulas than those that were completeable. I agree they should be better made and they definitely should not be changed mid event, especially when it is their fault. The cost to get to the end should be more reasonable, especially since that lady dragon is not worth the cost tho get there.

I was talking about when they made the VIP Dragon available for 250 or so gems for a couple of hours by mistake, and some were able to take advantage of it while most weren't. Sorry, I should have been more clear about that.

I just dont get how they can allow some people to get Silly and the 15 gems without doing anything, and then turn around and say that those of us who already have Heart and Forestry will have to claim duplicates plus the other two? I sent in a ticket, but I'm sure they will either deny it or say it was a bug and too bad!

@BrenDC I am not sure where you got your information that you had to claim Forestry and Heart again but I just got my bonus popup after I logged in again after claiming Wingspan. So far I have not claimed Heart but I have claimed Forestry for the egg. I did move my first Heart and Forestry out of the dragonarium so I am thinking that you do not have to reclaim what you already own and SPs banner has grammatical errors in it due to the language translation. Ironically for me I will be claiming Heart as well because I want them both for my storage egg collection.

@BrenDC said in Colossus Island:

I was talking about when they made the VIP Dragon available for 250 or so gems for a couple of hours by mistake, and some were able to take advantage of it while most weren't. Sorry, I should have been more clear about that.

That was a mistake that they corrected as soon as it was found. So you are saying they should have left it up so the late loggers could get it? Or should they tgey have penalized the ones who were lucky enough to get it in time?

Again i am not mad at the ones who were able to benefit from this, i just wish it happened to me more often. Ironically i try to log in at sale times just to see if i can get that lucky.

Webster really needs to take the word fair out of the dictionary because that is a myth...like the unicorn, nothing in life is fair.

@Nynaevelan I posted it above. Straight from the DC FB page.

@Nynaevelan Yes, a reputable company would have admitted the error and afforded the same opportunity to everyone. It's business 101. Creating an uneven playing field for your customers is bad for business, but SP really doesn't care.

This is why DC has been declining and we've lost good players.

@BrenDC said in Colossus Island:

@Nynaevelan Yes, a reputable company would have admitted the error and afforded the same opportunity to everyone. It's business 101. Creating an uneven playing field for your customers is bad for business, but SP really doesn't care.

This is why DC has been declining and we've lost good players.

I must be playing games from irreputable companies because they have admitted the error but the error was removed immediately. The users who got it were able to keep it but no others were allowed to get it, which is the same that sp has done. This is the same as companies where i shop, they put out a retraction but the error stops immediately. Do you have some examples of companies or games that have done as you wish?

@BrenDC I've also played numerous games that simply correct the error when found. Those lucky enough to have been in game at the right time benefit. Others don't.

Much like going to a store and finding an item that has been marked with a much lower price than it should have. You take the item to check out. They honor the price for you BUT send someone to pull the items and correct the price ticket. They don't just leave it for others to benefit.

And what makes you think that Dragon City is on the decline? If it were declining that badly, they would have scrapped it like Social Wars and Social Empires. A company will not continue to work on a game that's losing money. They simply fold and move on to something else.

@skidragon oh, Yes. I didn't realize that this event lasts so Long. I thought it was a Single-day Event, only on 14th of August.

Whether or not other games do the right thing is hardly the point. I happen to play games that do, but like I said, a REPUTABLE company will admit to their mistakes and level the playing the field. Saying others do it is hardly a justification.

As for DC declining, I have posted this before, but here it is again. The game peaked a long time ago, not surprisingly when you could play for free instead of spending real money. Monster Legends has passed it and is the more successful game. Of course decline and failure are massively different things.

/seekingalpha.com/article/4043984-running-numbers-take-twos-250-million-social-point-acquisition

Anyway, I'm not really sure why advocating for the game you love to do right by it's players is getting so much push-back? Maybe others who've left have the right idea?

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Today is the last day for the mini collection event. Since there are fights along the way with several hours of wait time, you will need to start soon in order to finish without spending gems to speed up fights, or coins to finish the fight nodes.

I just completed the mini collect, and I did have to collect Forestry and Heart even though I already had them in habitats. After collecting Headstrong and Tailwind I exited and closed the app and restarted it, but no reward. So I collected Forestry and Heart; exited, closed and restarted the app; the the reward of 15 gems and Silly dragon appeared.

@skidragon said in Colossus Island:

I just completed the mini collect, and I did have to collect Forestry and Heart even though I already had them in habitats. After collecting Headstrong and Tailwind I exited and closed the app and restarted it, but no reward. So I collected Forestry and Heart; exited, closed and restarted the app; the the reward of 15 gems and Silly dragon appeared.

Wow they gave me mine with only forestry, but i collected him for the egg only.

I got the Silly dragon a few minutes ago without having to collect Forestry which I already had.

Add me to the list of having to collect all to get:

Just tagged Tailwind, I am officially finished! Now going to rest until it all starts again next week.

I am waiting to see if there is another happy hour so I can maximize the resources I can collect, but I will move early enough so I have enough time complete the fights.

@skidragon said in Colossus Island:

I am waiting to see if there is another happy hour so I can maximize the resources I can collect, but I will move early enough so I have enough time complete the fights.

I thought about doing that but i would need more than two happy hours to get from tailwind to ironheart so i didnt wait. I might be able to finish runner but no more than him, i think.

How, and how far in advance can we be informed if there'll be a happy hour ? and for the encounters, is there a wait timer or some such ?