Beyond lvl 70, the max L donation allowed (5) i think there's no purpose leveling up further other than making challanges difficult, especially the recent significant nerfing of 72hrs challenge for the high lvl ones

I'd really love doing adventure maps, but they give tons of EXP

If its possible SP should hold a new event which halve(or nullify) exp for adventure maps for certain days, geared toward mid lvl players to suppress their exp gain

That is like asking to be able to buy a monster without using gems.

I think this should be in Idea Generator and not in General Discussion, that said dont think its a good idea because if you play this game balanced the only challenge that is to hard is 72hour challenge.
I absolute disagree with the idea that you most not level up because the game get's to difficult if you do

@loony123 said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

Beyond lvl 70, the max L donation allowed (5) i think there's no purpose leveling up further other than making challanges difficult, especially the recent significant nerfing of 72hrs challenge for the high lvl ones

I really don't know what the point of the adventure map is. There's no storyline, nothing special to unlock, mediocre rewards and the progress penalty of excessive experience making the 72hr challenge way more difficult. Another epic fail on SP's part imo!

@loony123 said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

I'd really love doing adventure maps, but they give tons of EXP

The higher you level, the more exp you need for the next level, so it pretty much balances out. I personally stopped the adventure map once I had the three guardians.

@Keith-Romberg said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

That is like asking to be able to buy a monster without using gems.

How's that related to my thread?
@Marianne-van-Es said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

I think this should be in Idea Generator and not in General Discussion, that said dont think its a good idea because if you play this game balanced the only challenge that is to hard is 72hour challenge.
I absolute disagree with the idea that you most not level up because the game get's to difficult if you do

But the game REALLY gets more difficult, and like i said there's no point lvl up higher than 70, or is there any?

@loony123 said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

But the game REALLY gets more difficult, and like i said there's no point lvl up higher than 70, or is there any?

What are you finding getting more difficult? I'm over lvl 70, only thing I see changing is the amount of exp required to reach the next level, but that occurs with every game, not just Monster Legends.

@Bruce-Hamilton I already explained, its 72hr challange

@loony123

But the game REALLY gets more difficult, and like i said there's no point lvl up higher than 70, or is there any?

What you basically state here that there is no point to play this game, because you don't want it to be more difficult.
For me the level you have says something about you, the higher level you have the more experience you have in the game. If I look for new members for my team and I have 2 applicants with say the same monsters and mp one is 70 the other 100 ill pick the lvl 100.

and again if you not only level but also gather more monsters, islands, have all guardians to work so play the game with all its aspects then (except the 72hour challenge) it is good to do and I never made Pandaken farms or breedable legends farms and I have no problem to get the 45 gems in the goldchallenge wasn't affected by the gold balancing either.

@loony123 said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

I already explained, its 72hr challange

I play the 72 hour challenge the same way I play most of their challenges, I take whatever I win along the way, and when the gem price gets to what I would pay on sale, I buy the monster.

@Marianne-van-Es said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

@loony123

But the game REALLY gets more difficult, and like i said there's no point lvl up higher than 70, or is there any?

What you basically state here that there is no point to play this game, because you don't want it to be more difficult.
For me the level you have says something about you, the higher level you have the more experience you have in the game. If I look for new members for my team and I have 2 applicants with say the same monsters and mp one is 70 the other 100 ill pick the lvl 100.

and again if you not only level but also gather more monsters, islands, have all guardians to work so play the game with all its aspects then (except the 72hour challenge) it is good to do and I never made Pandaken farms or breedable legends farms and I have no problem to get the 45 gems in the goldchallenge wasn't affected by the gold balancing either.

1. Geting more difficult accompanied by a decrease in reward instead of increase in reward? Hell NO, yo got that right i DO NOT want it to be more difficult if thats the case. I think wise players would also prefer to stay low level

2. You're mixing things up with Monster Power (MP). In that case case i'll give u another example, which one would u choose to be in your team :
   a. Lvl 80 player, with 5k MP
   b. lv 70 player, with 7k MP
   MP DOES tell if the person if experienced, strong, or not
   But Player level just basically means he's doing alot of adventure map

I dont understand, i see many people complained when they recently nerf the 72hr challange. And im pretty sure they will NOT Unnerf it, the only workaround is to suppress the player level. And im suggesting a way to suppress the level through a limited time event. So, for those who wana keep boosting their own personal level for whatever reason (bragging right?) can still do it outside the event. This basically harms NO ONE, and make life easier for mid level players

@loony123
I've ran into many players trying to join our team that seem to have no idea how to play the game. If you don't have all of your farms built and they aren't producing food, your not getting in. If you do have all your farms built and they are constantly growing atleast the 3k food food then you will level up. It is a good idea to not level up super fast but after playing for a few months you will find out that it is better to never stop food production and never stop trying to breed free legendaries. I advise staying away from adventure map till about lv 70 at which time you may as well slowly start doing it inbetween dungeons. If you are doing dungeons, watching adds, doing events, then it won't take long and the monsters from the 72 hour one become not so important.
The game actually has a pretty good flow of difficulty level. No real reason to purposely stop leveling or worry about monster power.
From a team war perspective, I don't care about monster power, I care that you have atleast one of every book that is lv 100 with atleast lv 4 runes in them and that you log on atleast to do the war attacks. That's all. Ive seem people with all lv 40 monsters somehow have fairly high monster power, so it means nothing to me now.

@loony123 LOL I think MP isnt that important slightly more since equipped runes are included but still not that significant higher mp especially in mid level players can gathered by having a lot of monsters, breedable monsters that are easy to rank (slightly more difficult to feed to max).
MP begins to tell me something when its above say 30k mp. So in your example I would take a look if they have high level runes, in the past would take a look at their rune building but luckily we can see equipped runes now what guardians they have got (how much stars)

So MP says nothing about experience at all it can be boosted with tricks. (5000 mp is 100 monsters with level 50)

The only trick you could use to level up quickly without time in the game is an expensive one buy a lot of legendary monsters and put them in legendary habitats grow a lot of food but you need gold for that so you have to buy gold with gems, to do adventure map you have to have strong monsters (not in the beginning) At the moment Im lvl 122 If i do an Island, there is a new one now I probably will be 123 or close then there will not be another island for sometime a month or more, so not true at all, level says something about experience mp only when it is very high

I dont understand, i see many people complained when they recently nerf the 72hr challange. And im pretty sure they will NOT Unnerf it, the only workaround is to suppress the player level. And im suggesting a way to suppress the level through a limited time event. So, for those who wana keep boosting their own personal level for whatever reason (bragging right?) can still do it outside the event. This basically harms NO ONE, and make life easier for mid level players

Level is based on xp experience points and you don't get that only with playing the adventure map, your solution is take away the experience points my solution would be give more benefits/rewards make it more attractive to level up. And sure I dont like it that 72 hour challenge is to difficult but that is such a small part of the game.
Bragging about it don't see it much but a a sense of accomplishment yes that i see

@loony123
I wouldn't call it exactly ruining. The 72h challenges are not that big a part of the game.

What's ruining the game is the price increase in the team shop, which makes all those level 130 generals unreachable for newer players and creates a severe imbalance.

I remember making a topic on the old forums about this a very long time ago. I strongly agree that the 72H vs. Level difficulty ratio needs to be adjusted:

It currently looks like a straight diagonal line where the 72H difficulty increases as your level increases.

I think it should be a slow bell curve. I.e easy for low levels, hard for mid levels, and gets slightly easier as your level gets higher from the middle range. This would punish those that don't level, and reward people for leveling past the middle point.

As a result, this would promote doing Adventure Map much more.

I must say I do not understand the issue with this topic and the suggestion to suppress the experience gained in AM for everyone because some players do not want to level past level 70. For those of us who have already surpassed these levels, the experience gained in AM helps to level up faster, yes there are those of us who still want to level up even though this hurts in the 72 hour challenges. Since we are already being penalized for being a higher level does not mean we should stop leveling up.

Second, if this is such an issue for you and you see no point to it, then stop doing the AM, therefor you are avoiding all the experience you could get. Oh wait let me guess, you counter argument will be you want the rewards that you can get from the Map. And that brings up my third point which is exactly the reason I like to complete, I like getting the rewards you get for completing the nodes, which are some nice bonuses, especially the latest islands.

And correct me if I am wrong the only portion of the game which is detrimental to be at higher levels is the card challenges. Why would you cripple yourself in the entire game just to get more benefits in one area. But that is neither here nor there, why should the entire gaming community be crippled just for those users who want to go against the norm and not level up. It seems to be the same suggestion as above applies, if you do not want to get all the experience in the AM, then don't do the AM and let the those that do, gain the experience as it was intended.

@Nynaevelan I think we just want to brag ;)

@Nynaevelan i already stated my reason why i dont want to lvl up.. but i still havent seen your reason why would you wana level up?

second, which means you are saying that in order to get the am rewards low to mid lv players need to be punished with tons of exp, which later translates into more difficult challange?

third, my suggestion is an event for a limited time only so i already said it wont hurt anyone and it will satisfy thr lower lvl players. of course high lvl players like lv 90+ wont be able to enojoy by this... but they already compensated by the era of vadamagma or throder gold farm, thus saving billions of gold to farm black lotus roots

last, i know for sure its not only me who feel this way. since i got bunch of my teammates feeling the same, suppressing their lvl not to lvl up too fast... maybe in the forum only high lvl players lurking in here, thats why they dont see the benefit

@loony123 leveling up gets the level up offers, some of which are very good.

Playing a game in which you aim to increase your performance while refusing to level up seems to be an antinomic behavior. I think the benefits of leveling up outweigh the drawbacks if you are properly organized and focused on what you want.

@C0ntr1v3d the positive side of discussion or suggestion is that I think that their could be more benefits for leveling up, sure some of the level-up offers are nice but 1 gem each level is a bit of a joke. I think the game would benefit from make it more attractive to level up.

@loony123 I like adventure map I get many food and gems.

@Marianne-van-Es said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

@C0ntr1v3d the positive side of discussion or suggestion is that I think that their could be more benefits for leveling up, sure some of the level-up offers are nice but 1 gem each level is a bit of a joke. I think the game would benefit from make it more attractive to level up.

Is that not what the new leveling up offers are for? Personally those alone was my main focus to level up when we got the new levels. Other than that there is no disadvantage or advantage not to level up for those of us who are or were already over level 90. Yes the AM gives lots of exp but they also give lots of rewards not only as the reward to complete the nodes but in the wheel.

Other than that it is just business as usual and the experience falls where it may. Again I see no disadvantage to leveling up, as @xargul stated if you have managed your islands to the best advantage then you will benefit from both worlds.

And @givrgos-kossi it is presumptive of you to assume that ALL veteran and/or high level players have gold farms, total ranked monsters and billions of food and gold sitting around with nothing to do with them.

But that is neither here nor there, I still think it is counterproductive to create an event whether permanent, temporary or only for certain players that will go against one or many of the goals of the game. Again I state, just don't do the adventure map and you avoid the experience as well as the rewards. Problem solved. But I do not see how you will progress and stay competitive because farming alone will level you up quickly. Will you also not farm or suggest SP nerf the experience we get from farming? What is next after that?

@C0ntr1v3d said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

@loony123 leveling up gets the level up offers, some of which are very good.

That, and of course you level up automatically if you want to produce food.
The part you control is AM, which gives a ton of experience. I stopped around level 200, where a battle gains 50 million XP, as much as producing 2 million food (or the equivalent of levelling 4 monsters to 50, or 1 monster to 100).

@givrgos-kossi said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

@loony123 I like adventure map I get many food and gems.

And you miss out on food and gems from the 72h challenge.
Once again, I think it don't think it makes much of a difference, as the rewards from AM get pretty good later on. I chose to stop in the AM, as I can always do those missions later on when I reach lofty levels, to get the better rewards in the 72h challenge.

BTW, does anyone has a chart how much coins you get in the 72h challenge? I couldn't find a recent one on the wiki. The old ones end at level 100, but there is a big dropoff between 79 and 80 (income from food is reduced by factor 4). That would mean once I reach level 80 I can complete the AM as it doesn't get any worse with coin production :)

@Nynaevelan What? I didn't assume anyone I just said I like adventure map because it gives me food to feed my monsters and gems to buy offers what's so offensive with that?

@givrgos-kossi said in Adventure map exp is ruining the game !!:

@Nynaevelan What? I didn't assume anyone I just said I like adventure map because it gives me food to feed my monsters and gems to buy offers what's so offensive with that?

Dude relax its all good. If you want to avoid the xp of AM, then the dungeons would be the best spot for you. Btw how far are you on the map?

Oh, just thought, I would add that I don't play the Adventure Map much (except to try and 3 star islands I have not), but I am still around island 191 and yet I cannot stop the slow progression of experience. I have been operating this way for months and have slowly crept up in level. Today I reached 80th level. So you can slow it, but you can't stop it.

I do the adventure maps and don't really care any longer about what level I am. I like the rewards and the level up offers, but what I don't like is instead of being rewarded for leveling up the challenges all are harder to accomplish. The Gold challenge for instance I have to collect a whole lot more gold to get the reward, and yes at my level I collect more gold then someone lower but it gets quite ridiculous at a certain level and the 72 hour challenge, but I have gotten to where I just don't do the 72 hour challenge but for the bit I can collect and if I get the 20 gems on the Gold great. It is not a big deal either way.

The gems in the AM are quite nice and the higher you go the better the gems you collect.

@Nynaevelan I've finished it.