A VIP dungeon, really?! Can't you be even more obvious on your intention on pulling money from players?
First events that can't be completed without spending hilarious amounts of gems and now even a VIP dungeon. Is it so hard to make the game fair and still earn money? Or are you just too greedy to do it?
The games aren't anymore who is the best player, but who was more money to throw at the developers. Money turns the world around and this foolish concept is even in games, which should be primarily for fun.

Don't think it is a big deal - Free player here --

SP need to make money after all , it would be perfect if this dungeon was pushed to only vip owners . other than that we have the normal dungeon of books which is playable

Note that Sp need money after all

I am confused what the issue is, if you do not have the VIPs skip the dungeon. It would be no different than any other features of the game, play the ones that you are comfortable with. Personally this will just join the Survival Dungeon, it is there but I have no desire or intention of playing it. The same way I CHOSE to not purchase any VIPs.

And I must also add, my gaming experience has not been diminished without the VIPs. I see this as a dungeon for those that did decide to buy VIPs.

I am disappointed, too.

In fact I think it may be time to take a break from the game.

Dungeons are the only free to play part of Monster Legends, and now SP are encouraging us to buy monsters with real money just so we can compete in these dungeons.

I only make about 600k gold per hour, and that all goes on food. I am kind of stuck now, and although I want to buy new monsters and enjoy myself, it is simply impossible in the game framework that SP have created (we need to buy habitats/upgrade them/pay gold to create food/feed the monster to a competitive level etc.).

If only there was no such thing as food/gold/habitats, and could just buy a monster and fight with it right away (earning XP from battles to level up).

Sigh.

If you guys are happy with events, team races and other content, that you can't finish without a ton of gems spent, than have fun. They can't also not even stop there, now we also have VIP dungeons, which we can't play at all. Feeling comfortable, that there is more and more content in the game that you don't like or use is kind of strange to say at least.

I should probably just stop playing such games at all. It is better to pay some money for a game to the developer beforehand and know it will have equal playability for all with no in game purchases affecting its fairness in a long run.

@Clackers
Note that those 2 type dungeons -- books & vip -- are extra , You still have the old same dungeons with same reward . yeah if sp removed old ones and bring those this would be different story

It's about time they came out with the VIP dungeon. There hasn't been a way until this dungeon to get cells for them without buying another VIP or one of the cells pack that they sell.
The VIP's have largely felt like a giant ripoff because of how expensive they are to rank up compared to the rest of the legends.

VIP dungeon I have no problem with having in game. However, I saw on Taringa there seems to be a VIP book coming in the near future.

If this becomes a rule in war, forcing people to either buy VIP or have an empty slot, then I fully support a riot.

@Portgas-D.-Ace Agree 100%

@Portgas-D.-Ace

Agree. If a VIP requirement will be used in war, people might quit

Hey @Portgas-D.-Ace @GSmith11 @Exile
There are no plans for VIP Team Wars restriction.
Keep in mind that Taringa is not official and there could be some misleading information.

Edit: Let's keep this thread on topic.

The VIP dungeon is a much welcomed addition... Prior to the lab the $20 VIPs made them feel.. like VIPs. After the lab many felt cheated out of the purchase, as a $20 VIP was weaker than a free Laomu.

I've had to use almost all of my elementium ranking VIPs, and in some cases had to pay more RL money to increase the rank. This at least attempts to "give back" to those that bought the VIPs.

They should have just hidden the dungeon to people who have none in my opinion.

@Fox said in Vip Dungeon?!:

Hey @Portgas-D.-Ace @GSmith11 @Exile
There are no plans for VIP Team Wars restriction.
Keep in mind that Taringa is not official and there could be some misleading information.

Edit: Let's keep this thread on topic.

Thanks for clearing that up :)

Well personally I like addition of the VIP dungeon. If I didn't have any then like other features of the game that I do not want to participate in, I would have ignored it. I only have 2 VIPs and I considered skipping it. Then decided to give it a go to get as far as I could. With @45 gems I was able to complete it with my two VIPs. Not bad to get over 30 VIP cells for monsters which I do not have.

If these dungeons are going to become a regular part of ML, I just might consider buying a third to round out my team and eliminate the need to use gems for each one.

I am not a free to play player nor am I a whale throws a significant amount of money at SP. But they are a company for profit and I am a player who is looking for reasonably priced entertainment. I will pay within my comfort zone until I feel I am no longer getting the entertainment that meets my needs, period.

Let me also clarify that I am not a zealous ranker, I have 3 monsters ranked to 115, two I got that way because our team won the team wars. The remaining monsters I have are at 110 or 105. I also do not see myself going crazy ranking many higher than that at any significant speed any time soon.

I like the VIP dungeon. I was one of those who spent 20$ in a VIp and then the monster was not able to be ranked up, so at least now I can sue this monster for something.

I like the VIP Dungeon because it actually allows me to use the VIP monsters I PAID for.

Social Point REALLY missed the mark when creating the VIP monsters. If your having to pay RL $$ for these, then they should of been scaled as so. The VIP monsters should be the BEST of their element with the highest stats and the best skill sets!! But......they were not! they actually in most cases were weaker and less desirable compared to other non-VIP monsters.

I for one am glad to see the VIP dungeon as I have two VIP monsters. I am not a big spender, but had invested in a couple that I thought I would enjoy having. I didn't want to spend more to rank the monsters nor do I feel like anyone else here is being cheated.

They didn't take away any dungeons, and if it weren't for those who spend there wouldn't be any free part to the games. They are in business to make money. I am glad they are trying to find a way to reward those of us who bought VIP monsters.

I still may buy a third if they continue with the VIP dungeons as it is a way to earn some cells without buying them. I too like free parts of the game. I don't spend money on some other parts of the game, but I figure it is not any more then a night out to spend a bit here or there to play.

I don't have any VIP monsters and i was always snobbing them. This addition of the VIP dungeon, as evil as it is, finally won me over. Grats SP. !
Here!

Now here is my question to those that played the dungeon already: Enemy monsters scale in level according to the rest of all my monsters or just my VIPs? Like... if i get 3 VIPs lvl 100 will my enemies be lvl 100 or will they be 130 which is my highest of the rest of my monsters?

@Rage said in Vip Dungeon?!:

I don't have any VIP monsters and i was always snobbing them. This addition of the VIP dungeon, as evil as it is, finally won me over. Grats SP. !
Here!

Now here is my question to those that played the dungeon already: Enemy monsters scale in level according to the rest of all my monsters or just my VIPs? Like... if i get 3 VIPs lvl 100 will my enemies be lvl 100 or will they be 130 which is my highest of the rest of my monsters?

The highest I faced was a level 109. My highest monster is level 115 but not my VIPs. I was able to make it through with my two, but I did have to use the 3 gems for several nodes.

@Fox

I see Some players share on Fb group a support reply that confirm that players can craft vip from cells they got from vip dungeon

What we know before that you cant craft a vip .. so for example if i collected zyla cells i can craft here even if i never owned here before ?

Is this new rule ?

@Haka-Taka that is my understanding. I am hoping when Zyla comes out to get her. I went through the dungeon with level 100, 2 VIP and didn't use any gems only used items I already had in the items shop. Went through the whole dungeon. a couple I had to do twice but completed it.

I really hope we see more of these as I collected some cells I didn't have and some of the same monsters I do have so it would be nice if this is going to be how we are going to be able to rank them.

@Suzznee said in Vip Dungeon?!:

@Haka-Taka that is my understanding. I am hoping when Zyla comes out to get her. I went through the dungeon with level 100, 2 VIP and didn't use any gems only used items I already had in the items shop. Went through the whole dungeon. a couple I had to do twice but completed it.

I really hope we see more of these as I collected some cells I didn't have and some of the same monsters I do have so it would be nice if this is going to be how we are going to be able to rank them.

No problem collecting cells and rank what you already have bit by bit
i am concern about crafting a vip you never had

Few months ago nox cells was placed by mistake in the cell shop , people went and buy with gems , then few could craft it , many couldn't , i contacted SP and the official reply was we cant craft vip

now some players thinks about buy 1 or 2 and bit by bit collect cells and craft others

@Haka-Taka Not sure if this helps any but when I go in and try to craft it just tells me how many I need and that it isn't in my monstergram

@Suzznee
this is a general info , as i mentioned before people already bought 80 nox cell but couldn't craft those +20 elementiun into a vip monster

@Haka-Taka Would be nice if we could get someone to answer this then. Although for me it is encouragement to buy Zyla she was next on my list to buy when I had extra money. I only have two VIP's right now, but if they continue with the dungeons it is an incentive to me to want to buy another VIP or 2.

@Suzznee said in Vip Dungeon?!:

@Haka-Taka Would be nice if we could get someone to answer this then. Although for me it is encouragement to buy Zyla she was next on my list to buy when I had extra money. I only have two VIP's right now, but if they continue with the dungeons it is an incentive to me to want to buy another VIP or 2.

Exactly , most players will think that buying 2 or 3 vip is good , and slowley collect the others cells and craft , but if they found that they cannt it will be a riot especially that the support said yes you can craft generally

i am trying to prevent this :) and now the idea of buying 1 vip is a bit more tempting

@Haka-Taka @Suzznee

You can craft VIPs if you have VIP cells, yes. :)

@Fox

Thanks for confirming this , and will be vip dungeon permanent feature ?

so every week ? 2 weeks , once per month ? etc

@Haka-Taka said in Vip Dungeon?!:

@Fox

Thanks for confirming this , and will be vip dungeon permanent feature ?

so every week ? 2 weeks , once per month ? etc

I sure hope so, I would love to be able to get VIP cells not only for my 3 VIPs but the others as well. And yeah I caved and purchased Kaih this weekend.

@MarshallTheBeef
Totally agree, VIP cells are extremely expensive, so to be able to get them after you have shelled out for a VIP is very welcome.
I personally feel that allowing folks to see there is a way of obtaining VIP cells is a positive, rather than just thinking VIP cells always have to be bought.

@Haka-Taka said in Vip Dungeon?!:

@Fox

Thanks for confirming this , and will be vip dungeon permanent feature ?

so every week ? 2 weeks , once per month ? etc

Not that I know of, nothing is set up but it will probably appear again.

@Fox well that sucks. They give us a tidbit with a few cells and then we have them sitting there. I didn't even earn enough to do anything with. :(

@Suzznee said in Vip Dungeon?!:

@Fox well that sucks. They give us a tidbit with a few cells and then we have them sitting there. I didn't even earn enough to do anything with. :(

I didn't say it will not appear. I just don't know when :)
Can't tell you all the secrets, that wouldn't be fun.

Only 5 months ago. I think this is the 3rd VIP dungeon. How your VIP's doing against all those 130's, Nemesis monsters and super powered race monsters? Go on spend the money, those VIP day's are here lol

@testcyp said in Vip Dungeon?!:

Only 5 months ago. I think this is the 3rd VIP dungeon. How your VIP's doing against all those 130's, Nemesis monsters and super powered race monsters? Go on spend the money, those VIP day's are here lol

I am not sure what you mean by this but my 105 and 110s does the dungeon pretty easily, and my 105 is Nox.

I am pitted against 130 Nemesis, Nemesis, Nemesis with level X runes or 130 team race monsters with X runes. It really has left a bad taste in my mouth that I spent money after my original post on more VIP monsters to see that they are worthless now in PVP or wars.

@Suzznee said in Vip Dungeon?!:

I am pitted against 130 Nemesis, Nemesis, Nemesis with level X runes or 130 team race monsters with X runes. It really has left a bad taste in my mouth that I spent money after my original post on more VIP monsters to see that they are worthless now in PVP or wars.

Will the result be any different if you are up against 3 VIPs? I doubt.

Yes, Nemesis has better movesets and states but they're not too OP (except for Samael), and not all Nemesis has Bulwark trait, which is what makes VIPs valuable. They're always threat in defense in war, the 1 or 2 coins they could defend makes all the difference in an elite war. I'd rather face non-Bulwark trait Nemesis than VIPs.

Nemesis aren't that difficult to beat in PvP, even a team with Samael, as long as you don't have level/rune disparity and right monsters.

@testcyp I don't own any VIPs, so I cannot do the dungeons.

Now the Nemeses have been revealed, I don't really see the point in buying a VIP either. However, Hiroim and Hydrok have great designs, shame they weren't normal legendaries.

On another note, I wonder when we will get a Nemesis Dungeon?

@SkeelMaster the Nemesis monsters Hydratila and Lucifire are not defense monsters, they are offence so you can attack a higher level than you and still fight. They made Hydratila because of 130 Theyts dominance and the stupid team shop prices where no one that wasn't close to having her at 130 would ever ranked.
Then SP decided to say the heck with it and just made the Nemesis the most powerful monsters in the game, after the last 3 Nemisis coming out all with Bulwark it's safe to say that that's their trait now.
There's 1 ranked VIP that's dangerous, Zyla because she will wipe your team if she gets a turn. Ranked Khai will cost you some coins. All the other VIP's are very situational in their use. Even if ranked there are lots of monsters now that a just flat out better at getting you 3 coins or defense than the VIP's.

Original point: Reread this thread from 5 months ago and look at the optimism/pessimism and see what's happened to game since. Example, we're excited for another way to earn cells. Reality, since this thread and doing every VIP dungeon i have a whopping 20 zyla cells.

@terminator1202 said in Vip Dungeon?!:

Did anyone else notice that the coin dungeon just disappeared with more than a day and a half left to play?
So, don't get free coins, buy them? I spend my fair share. Why would SP pull the rug out from under me. I need one more space to get a legendary monster! No more coins for me? I spent $50 to get at much, really?

It was a dungeon for 24 hours only, but this topic is about the VIP dungeon

@SkeelMaster I would rather go up against a team of VIP. I have easily beat a team of VIP with the right team and runes but before I ever get a chance with Level X ranked Samael or a full team of Nemesis at level 130 and level 10 runes I am dead before I ever get a turn

@terminator1202 Are you sure that's the reason because I know you made several posts about it in DC (not ML)and that's considered spamming i warned you about it.
Also there are several posts you can tell your opinion but they aren't to happy if you are starting a new thread because the forum gets cluttered with many threads about the same subjects. I suggest look around before you start a new thread

@terminator1202 said in Vip Dungeon?!:

Ok, I've just been threatened to be banned from forum for suggesting that players ban together to not purchase from monster legends till end of year!
Wow! All my posts were deleted. So, we are allowed to babble like children about epic vs legendary, but, not to protect our sizable investment given to an ever hungry for more ML!
I wonder...what would google say about this kind of intimidation?
Any thoughts?

You were explained why you were banned. And it has nothing to do with intimidation, you agreed to the rules when you signed up. If this is something you cannot respect or abide by, you are welcome to stop using the forum.

@terminator1202 TBH I get those kind of private messages all the time, even from @fox. It is intimidation - and they think they can do it in private without me telling anyone. However, it will not work :D

I guess the "mods" just don't like people disparaging their game on their own official forums because it might affect revenue.

Please stick to the subject of the topic.....another forum rule being ignored.