New PvP is horrible. Can't battle players 300 trophies higher with monsters 15 to 30 levels higher. Social Point is ruining my enjoyment for the game.

I agree. Without the refresh option I can't battle because the only opponents that pop up are levels that I can't even come close to beating. With the refresh option there still were times that I couldn't battle because the opponents were still out of my league but at least I had a chance.

Are social point going to do anything about this or is it just the hackers with maximum everything that have to enjoy the game if Pvp continues like this I won't be playing

I agree - I was in gold I and now I'm in gold II - but still every opponent that comes up for me to battle is gold I with 300-400 more points than me - can't win and the opplevel never go Down to II

I think PvP is for the AI now for many players, unless you have everything maxed out.

We are up against people with higher trophies, ranks, monsters ( with 1-3 maxed out bullwark monster in every damn battle) and leagues (right now I have 2 opponents in L3 one in L2), most of the time can't win a fight because the enemy has an insane chance of getting his special or you are only up against Nemesis as soon as you step in a legendary league.

Know that people who attack you will likely be 300-500 trophies lower as well so your best chance to win trophies is by not playing at all. I have won more fights than I have lost on offense and it's 50/50 on def but as long as defeats count more there is no moving forward.

I have tried to fight this season but have not managed to get more than 50 points overalll in L4, I'm bumped back to gold 1 as soon as I attempt something.

So it's best to just wait, this game isn't very fun anymore when your best bet to progress is by not playing it. Nevermind I guess...

That's the sad bit.... you can get more trophies by not fighting. Even matched fights would be nice. Why is that such a problem to do?

@David-Lewis They are changing the way you need to play the game. It used to be an attackers game. By removing the refresh button and the upcoming change to possession it is going to make it a more defensive game. The only way to move up is to focus on your PVP team.

1. They get the BEST runes you have.
2. You go out of your way to rank them up at the expense of ranking up other monsters or even buying new monsters.
3. When relics come your PVP team gets the relics.
4. If you are Gold 1 or above be prepared for a feeding frenzy in the first few days of each new league.
5. Enjoy this new era of peace in PVP! The gap in attacking is too high, so wait for easier teams to show up.
6. Take every revenge battle that comes your way.
7. Read a good book with all the spare time that you now have due to not fighting as many PVP.

I totally AGREE!!!!! Since the
Change I've only battled maybe 10x. B4 the change i was battling 10 a day. I despise this change. I average 80-85 on my top monsters and they have me fighting 100++++. No fun at all. Guess ill find another game and with that my money will FOLLOW

@David-Lewis I agree. Not only do I battle teams with more trophies they are two or more leagues higher. So much for battling on equal terms. Thanks a lot social point

@tintum I have had a couple of instances where I have been able to choose a Level 100 team this season that I can beat. But by far if I could even come close to choosing a team I think I have a chance against what I find is those teams have crazy speed runes & if I do get a turn I am met by 1 or 2 special moves.

Did they ever say why it is if you attack & win you only get 19-20 trophies, but the team that loses will lose 30-40 trophies? Where do the other 10-20 trophies go?

@tosha said in PvP:

Did they ever say why it is if you attack & win you only get 19-20 trophies, but the team that loses will lose 30-40 trophies? Where do the other 10-20 trophies go?

They have never explained why they made the change, but I think it is relatively easy to figure out. They have made PVP harder to advance. The only real way to move forward is not to fight in a manner that involves strong attacks, but weak defense. If think if you have ranked monsters on both your attack and defense teams as well as high level runes, you will do better. At some point, probably in the Legendary leagues, it may also come down to what monsters you have like VIP and/or Nemesis.

The sad aspect is that for F2P, that probably means it will take me several months to get to a stable place in L4, maybe even a year.

@Kaiju it sucks...think I've battled maybe 3 times since the change. Everyone is more powerful. Seem to constantly be in a shieldedkode so don't get attacked much either. So tired of the bs maybe movingon to other games very soon. Just not enjoying myself anymore.

@Bj-Drake I am tired of playing a game for a year and then bailing on it. I did that once already. I am just lowering my expectations and playing within the new rules. So if you can live with slower progression and possibly not moving at all until you have more powerful monsters and runes, then you might find the game enjoyable again. We all need to remember why we first started playing.

@David-Lewis i agree, it is impossible to win any pvp batles.

@Suvi-Kelkkanen-Rautiainen said in PvP:

@David-Lewis i agree, it is impossible to win any pvp batles.

Impossible...no. Unlikely...yes, especially during the first week. Once things settle down, it is easier to find reasonable opponents in the second week. But it seems that only works for me because my only goal is to cement my position in the Legend 4 league. If you are trying to progress to a new league, then yes that is almost impossible to do.

@David-Lewis Something to also consider now in PVP is that you get maze coins from winning in PVP. I have decided to put a weaker defense team out sometimes in order to lure someone to attack me, then I can take a revenge battle. It is not the ideal way and obviously I will need to do some regular battles to make up for the trophy loss, but otherwise I battle maybe once a day and thus lose out on alot of maze coins.