I just saw the announcement that it was rolled out to 10% of the Android users and was curious as to how it all works... construction time and cost, cost to add new storage cells, the maxiumum amount of monsters it will hold, etc.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light. I'm so excited for this as I have over 230 monsters in storage and no way to use them currently.

One of my teammate got it
Cost 20M gold & 2 days to build

__UPDATE

The Vault now has its page on wiki
http://monster-wiki.com/monster-vault/
and here is the prices of first 30 slot ,, the rest when it goes official

Thank you Haka Taka! 20M gold is doable. I don't think I'll be able to wait the 48 hours so will probably blow too many gems to speed it up... LOL!

What is the capacity? Is there a charge per monster, as was speculated there would be?

@Bruce-Hamilton One of my teammates said you get 2 for free. The first slot to pay is 1 gem and then the one after that is 15 gems.

It looks like it's going to be very expensive to make use of. 15 gems for the 4th slot is ridiculous! Hopefully they will have sales for additional slots.

@Bruce-Hamilton not from me but this is what heard The monster vault is confirmed to b 20M gold, they give you 2 slots to start with so far the infrormation we have is that the 3rd costs 1 gem and the 4th costs 15

So slots 4-10 are 15 gems each, then it jumps to 25? How much higher does it go?

What in the everloving-heck is wrong with them??!?!?!?!? Holy.....

The kicker is most of us would only use the vault for the lower-earning monsters, so we'll have to pay an outrageous price to stash away our junk. I can't think of a worse way to implement a solution to the space problem. Way to go, SP.

*//Edit by Fox
Please, don't spam forum. You can edit posts to add other comments.

First row cost

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7300 gems = 121 slot

I've waited so long for this and now it is just a major disappointment. SP, you should be ashamed of yourselves. This is a very poor implementation of a much needed resource.

Cannot believe they would implement a more expensive version of the dragonarium from DC....actually I can, so not really surprised at all. Just disappointed. This isn’t going to help most players. I might not even bother to buy it.

@Glaceon said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

Cannot believe they would implement a more expensive version of the dragonarium from DC....actually I can, so not really surprised at all. Just disappointed. This isn’t going to help most players. I might not even bother to buy it.

I'm going to buy it but I am only going to buy a few slots, I am going to wait and see if they either lower the prices or offer some kind of kick off sale once it goes live for everyone. They better otherwise the backlash for this is going to be worse than it has been with the multiplayer fiasco.

And I'm sorry even I am finding it hard to defend them with this. I thought the prices for the DC slots were outrageous but this beats the DC team hands down.

I was using the amazon version of the game,I just switched back to my google version and the vault is in my store. We shall see in two days whether I buy anything beyond a couple of slots.

FYI: Legend hab prices went from 2 million to 2.5 million. So i f you plan to buy any, you might want to do it before you are updated...

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

FYI: Legend hab prices went from 2 million to 2.5 million. So i f you plan to buy any, you might want to do it before you are updated...

They've always been 2.5 on IOS, was Google giving you a break?

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

FYI: Legend hab prices went from 2 million to 2.5 million. So i f you plan to buy any, you might want to do it before you are updated...

Haven't bought one in a long time but were they not always that price?

@Bruce-Hamilton said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

FYI: Legend hab prices went from 2 million to 2.5 million. So i f you plan to buy any, you might want to do it before you are updated...

They've always been 2.5 on IOS, was Google giving you a break?

No, I checked fb before I went back to my device...hmm now I will have to log back into fb and see if the price is still 2 mil. It has been a while since I bought any habs so I am not sure if google had the 2 mil or 2.5 mil price.

I just pulled this off of fb not an hour ago.

Just as I thought a worthless sinkhole for gems. Nothing is solved.

The more I think about this, the more and more angry I get. After months and months of stating a permanent solution for storage is coming, they pull this. 2 free slots and then costs go up exponentially. Really? Who in hell thought this was a good idea? As I said, nothing is solved.

@fox @carlos

Wow you guys really hosed players over on this one huh? Promising a "solution" for MONTHS and then this GARBAGE is released?!? I've seen no less than 20 people just quit the game. I'm normally one to stick up for SP and defend them (heck I was doing it on the ML community FB page no more than an hour ago) but this is nothing more than a HUGE insult and telling off to all your players. Wow great job, I'm hoping more and more players now take the FTP route, as this is reprehensible.

Waw. Well, if this is any indication of what's yet to come, I am glad I quit.
Those prices ar ridiculous does every single feature have to be about spending gems? Can't they for once just be like: "hey! This our fault, you been waiting for this, here!" Make users happy for once instead of frustrated and angry?
Ok could have been something like the hatchery upgrades. Say first 60 slots cost 100 gems 2nd 60 slots cost 200 for example. Or like the workers huts for each 20 slots for example. This is way too much for something so essential and basic. For something that is a solution for their own inability to just increase habitats. There is still a lot of empty spaces on islands that could have just held more habitats.

Not surprised, this game is going down the crapper fast, just when you though it couldn't get any worse with all the issues it already has, they pull this on their play base.

I was so excited to see this news. But if these prices stay that way, I'm so disappointed. Big drive for me in this game is collecting and I'm about out of space. Really hope they reduce the costs.

Playing devil's advocate, maybe their reasoning was if they were to add an island, you'd be paying for that with gems anyway. Assuming that was their thinking, let's say they released a new small island that could fit 6 legendary habitats, or 24 monsters. 24 monsters times 25 gems is 600. 600 gems for one of the smaller islands in the game? That's pricey for sure, but it wouldn't be too out of line with today's SP.

However, on this imaginary little island, we get no gold production from the habitats. How would you feel about the 600 gems then?

SP, please fix your pricing and/or give us our gold production. Heck, I'd even forego boosters affecting the vault. But with those slot prices, gold production is frikkin' mandatory!

(Yes, I know the first handful cost less. But the people who needed this to begin with will fill that in a heartbeat!)

How about 1 free slot for every monster you've purchased for 249 or more gems, or cash? Any you breed or win you provide your own space. If I give you 249, you can surely spare 25.

Not fair SP, when i started playing this game i thought i had kissed a Prince, turns out i Met the Frog. Please stop turning a Wedding into a Wake and get game back on track to Being fun, this vault cost is totally Fugazi !!!

Simple. Don’t build the vault.

@Sinisism said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

Playing devil's advocate, maybe their reasoning was if they were to add an island, you'd be paying for that with gems anyway. Assuming that was their thinking, let's say they released a new small island that could fit 6 legendary habitats, or 24 monsters. 24 monsters times 25 gems is 600.

Except every island so far has been sold for gold, and legend habitats are sold for gold too so every island upgrade so far has been gem free...

They need to fix this pricing but they probably won't. Real shame, they promised us a solution to the space problem and delivered garbage.

They delivered garbage indeed. And the ONLY response to that is to not pay for it. So simple. Complaints are meaningless.

When I first read about a solution to the storage problem was in the works I was genuinely happy thinking it's really getting addressed.

After seeing this implementation it's obvious greed has completely taken over this game's management without any forward planning going on. Mandatory elements of the game are becoming gem sinks, shoving in-app purchases down our throats and pushing players away from the game. Events have become impossible to complete without the use of real money or huge amounts of gems (which again you can only really get by putting your credit card to work) and without those there's really not much to play for - as they are our best way of acquiring new monsters. Being forced to <omitted> mazes and progressive islands is definitely not fun and the 72h challenge imbalance for high level players rant is getting old if not ancient by now.

I understand that people who work on this game need income but god damn where do you draw the line? The way things are going logging in will remain the only free thing about this game.

ML used to be fun, since recently everything keeps reminding me that being a free player (not by choice but because of insane exchange rates) is crippling. Players who make IAPs would do so either way and those of us who don't will not start doing so just because you force us to, SP. We will quit and move on. You will be losing numbers. IAPs don't keep the game alive, the community does.

Yes. They are playing us for fools. And we’ll prove them right if we pay for this.

@SamIAm You bring up a good point. I actually squirreled away 1300+ gems, anticipating that there would some kind of gem cost to this thing. However, I do not intend to just start buying slots like mad. I'm probably going to get the one that costs 1. Beyond that, if we don't sink our gems in it, I hope it'll encourage them to reduce the cost. But if we do, all this uproar is for nothing.

If you get value out of it, then fine. Spend your money. But complaining is useless. The only thing that matters to them is whether they get your cash or not. If you’re angry about the vault, don’t pay for it. Simple.

I won’t.

Had they communicated on the front end that this would cost—that would have helped.

@SamIAm I certainly feel bad for players who spent money on this game. Fortunately the exchange rates dissuaded me from doing so and now I'm glad I haven't given them a single cent.

Buy gems, buy coins, buy this, buy that... ML isn't even a game with IAPs anymore, it's literally become an online store with reminders of the game it used to be with events going from completely or mostly doable to "why even bother" and the sick overnight ninja inflation of prices in the team shop. Team wars are the only reason I'm still playing and with the level of frustration recent changes are causing I'm probably going to uninstall with the next extremely disappointing update, if not sooner, cause I can't do much with my war coins either. With their current cost it would take me 12-15 months just to get one general to 130. And I'm already at a point where a vast majority of my opponents have ranked up monsters.

Every update gives us less things to do in game and more things to purchase for real money.

What are the odds that someone influential actually reads this and at the same time has the common sense to realize you'll profit more from a cow by milking it until it's natural death than immediately chopping it up into pieces because meat tastes better.

@Sinisism said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

Playing devil's advocate, maybe their reasoning was if they were to add an island, you'd be paying for that with gems anyway. Assuming that was their thinking, let's say they released a new small island that could fit 6 legendary habitats, or 24 monsters. 24 monsters times 25 gems is 600. 600 gems for one of the smaller islands in the game? That's pricey for sure, but it wouldn't be too out of line with today's SP.

However, on this imaginary little island, we get no gold production from the habitats. How would you feel about the 600 gems then?

SP, please fix your pricing and/or give us our gold production. Heck, I'd even forego boosters affecting the vault. But with those slot prices, gold production is frikkin' mandatory!

(Yes, I know the first handful cost less. But the people who needed this to begin with will fill that in a heartbeat!)

I like this analogy and it makes sense.

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

I like this analogy and it makes sense.

It makes no sense as Islands and habitats have never cost gems before.

Notice that there has not been a single person from SP to step in here and justify things at all.

Hello,

Thank you for your feedback we will forward it.

Just a few things that might clear some things about the vault.

1. Monster Vault is a long-term solution for high-level players who bought all islands, bought and upgraded all habitats.

2. Someone mentioned that Monster vault is more expensive than in DC. That is true BUT in DC you cannot basically use the dragons, in Monster Vault you can fight with them or breed them.

3. Monster Vault is cheaper than buying a new island and habitats for 32 monsters.

4. We didn't want to add more islands or allow to place more monsters on current habitats as it is already memory demanding or can cause crashes on lower-end devices.

5. Monster Vault allows you to place the monsters directly, no need to buy or upgrade habitats right away.

6. There will be slot discounts in the future. /edited

I know this might not change your view on things, I am just asking to think about all of this a little bit.
Thank you

@Fox I don't understand point 3 we can buy islands and habitats for gold, gold is much easier to get then gems so solution then would be make the slots available for gold

@Fox Thanks for responding. I know it's not fun to deal with a bunch of belly aching.

From my perspective, I'm all for the mechanics of the vault. The problem I have is the cost per slot. It's just too high. My primary motivation in this game is collecting. But because of space, I've got a bunch of monsters I can't craft or hatch, because I'm full. I need to store 50+ monsters (although I'd like to store away even more!). The hundreds of gems this will cost me is unreasonable. Particularly because this is supposed to be a solution for a limitation the game has, not some in game benefit I want. If the cost per slot can be brought down, I'll be a happy camper.

@Fox said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

Hello,

Thank you for your feedback we will forward it.

Just a few things that might clear some things about the vault.

3. Monster Vault is cheaper than buying a new island and habitats for 32 monsters.

4. We didn't want to add more islands or allow to place more monsters on current habitats as it is already memory demanding or can cause crashes on lower-end devices.

5. Monster Vault allows you to place the monsters directly, no need to buy or upgrade habitats right away.

Few very incorrect/misleading points you've made:

3. It's not cheaper. Given the vault is an addition for high level players, we have an abundance of both gold and food making island and habitat purchase cost us next to nothing. The vault costs a gigantic sum of gems in order to become fully functional, gems being a currency nobody has in abundance.

4. According to this there's no reason to put hefty gem costs and deny further gold income as the vault is primarily a replacement band-aid solution to hardware issues and not an actual gameplay issue. A smarter solution would be to revamp the entire habitat layout, there's really no need for monsters to walk around 24/7 sucking our bandwidth, memory and battery power. And it doesn't just cause problems on low end devices, my phone (xiaomi redmi 4s) is by no means a low-end device and loading my base takes several minutes after I clear my cache. Even with 2gb cached data scrolling over my islands is still twitchy.

5. Monster vault doesn't allow us to place monsters directly without buying or upgrading as the slots cost gems to unlock. Gems aren't free.

I'm sorry but it looks like your points are based around the thought that we all have infinite gems to spend or infinite money for gem purchases.

Honestly I'm not sure what people are so upset about. Is their solution bs? Yes, absolutely. What I'm not understanding is what people actually expected. This hit the nail on the head for what I thought they'd do. I remember when I played dragon city and the dragonarium came out and I thought it was ridiculous and horrible. So I knew it'd be similar, but I guess people were okay with that. I'm not even sure why honestly, if you can fit everything in the beginning they should keep it that way as they add more monsters without having this issue in the first place. Anyway from what I've seen since the buy out, everything is way more difficult, more expensive, more frustrating, less fun. The game has been slowly dying since they took over because they don't care about the game at all and just want to find new ways to make people spend a lot more than was previously required and try to justify it with nonsense reasoning. So it being a lot more expensive than the dragonarium was expected. Only thing I was concerned about was when it was actually going to happen.

I will buy it and use what I can when I need to. That's that. At least they got it out, or are starting to. I didn't think people would react si harshly when everyone should have known exactly what was coming based on the announcements and they still kept asking for it. I thought when people heard they'd have a fit back then and say no they wanted more habitats and islands. Not the case. Oh well. Be more careful with what monsters you decide to keep. If you stop participating in the breeding events, which I'm not a fan of anyway, there is no reason to keep anything besides maybe 2 monsters of each rarity excluding epics. Keep the good epics and legends. Now with the changed wars most others are useless now anyway.

@dashielle89 Not all of us played dragon city to know what to expect.

SP expect us to pay big money for a band-aid solution to a very old gameplay problem. I understand charging money for overpowered VIP and nemesis monsters but this approach is just flat out giving the entire high level playerbase an ultimatum saying give us your money or leave.

Why not charge gold and/or food for slot unlocking? Actual currencies high level players have in abundance, considering the vault is a feature aimed at that very playerbase. I've been playing for a year and already hit a point where I'm hoarding gold and food because they have barely any use.

@Marianne-van-Es said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Fox I don't understand point 3 we can buy islands and habitats for gold, gold is much easier to get then gems so solution then would be make the slots available for gold

Yeah I have to agree #1 and #3 totally contradict each other. High level players with all islands and maxed habitats USUALLY have LOTS of gold (I have over 14 BILLION right now) so the cost of buying an island and buying 8 legendary habitats and upgrading them is nothing. Even if the island were to cost 500 million gold and the 8 L habitats fully upgraded costs 900 million for a total of 1.4 billion... yeah how is 20 million gold plus, what, around 600 gems for 32 spots (6+ weeks of collecting gems) cheaper??? Nope sorry not buying that. This is just a way to exploit high level players and collectors. You guys blew this one, like I said already seeing a lot of players leaving, I think this may have been the straw to break a lot of backs!! Promise a solution for a problem they have created and the solution is worse than the problem... SMH!!!

@Keith-Romberg said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

I like this analogy and it makes sense.

It makes no sense as Islands and habitats have never cost gems before.

Notice that there has not been a single person from SP to step in here and justify things at all.

Actually they have, BUT ML has the benefit of offering users the options to either buy for gold or gems...

Actually they have, BUT ML has the benefit of offering users the options to either buy for gold or gems...

Yes and there also the option to buy Legendary monsters for 2700 gems....

If SP is using the "possible" gem cost for buying an island over the 99.999% of the time used gold cost to buy the same island that is the most disingenuous argument I have EVER heard.

@drewish said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

Actually they have, BUT ML has the benefit of offering users the options to either buy for gold or gems...

Yes and there also the option to buy Legendary monsters for 2700 gems....

If SP is using the "possible" gem cost for buying an island over the 99.999% of the time used gold cost to buy the same island that is the most disingenuous argument I have EVER heard.

I do agree with you, and I am really, really, really trying to find some kind of justification for this but I can't...I just can't. No matter how I slice up the numbers I just can't find any reasons to buy slots.

Am I upset about this? Yes I am. I had high expectations for this building and sadly my expectations calculated this based on DCs current over priced slots. But wow, this makes those slots look like bargain prices.

So for now, I am just going to let mine build and sit there. And hope either they rethink these prices or have a sale or two which would make buying slots economical for me. So I guess the struggle for space continues on. But honestly I am rethinking buying any future monsters because I am just not feeling spending my gems for more monsters to sit in storage nor do I want to get rid of any more because the "solution" offered is too outrageous and expensive for me to use.

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Keith-Romberg said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

Actually they have, BUT ML has the benefit of offering users the options to either buy for gold or gems...

Gold can only buy us level 1 runes and rare monster cells, other than that it serves no purpose whatsoever. From a high level point of view.

While gems give access to everything except vip/nemesis monsters and maze coins.

@Wololo said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Keith-Romberg said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

Actually they have, BUT ML has the benefit of offering users the options to either buy for gold or gems...

Gold can only buy us level 1 runes and rare monster cells, other than that it serves no purpose whatsoever. From a high level point of view.

While gems give access to everything except vip/nemesis monsters and maze coins.

and buy habitats also legendary ones and can upgrade them with gold if they are going to chance that I'm quieting the game.

and I'm a (little) afraid of because of point 3

@Wololo said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Keith-Romberg said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

@Nynaevelan said in Does anyone have the Monster Vault yet? Can you tell us the costs, etc.?:

Actually they have, BUT ML has the benefit of offering users the options to either buy for gold or gems...

Gold can only buy us level 1 runes and rare monster cells, other than that it serves no purpose whatsoever. From a high level point of view.

While gems give access to everything except vip/nemesis monsters and maze coins.

Seeing as how I was only responding to Keith's comment regarding island costs, this is....

I did a comparison of the costs of the first 200 slots of DCs dragonarium and even IF you add in that fact that the monsters are still available in the Vault versus their unavailability in DC the jump in costs....nope it just does not compute. ML is going to need a much better than 50% sale than what DC offers. This is based on an assumption that there are 5 for 45 gems and the remaining 165 will be for 50 gems each. This is @ a 69% increase in DC prices, unless of course my math is off...