I was moving during the 10% maze discount, but after I used my coins someone on my team said theirs was actually 30% off. So I refreshed and it changed to 30%. This caused me to waste a lot of coins.

Having logged in only 20 minutes after it expired (I read about it in in-game chat) I was left feeling the same way. Like I was scammed.

For us who keep the game free to play (not because I'm stingy but because exchange rates for my country make it so that in-app purchases are a financial burden moreso than "micro transactions") this discount probably meant the difference between completing the requirements for the Monster Merit Award event and not for most. The least social point could have done, and should do in the future, is announce the happy hour times in advance instead of us having to look for them on these forums or various other online sources containing information that can't fully be trusted. A 30% discount for the maze is a HUGE deal and I'm very disappointed that there was no heads-up.

@Wololo The amazing nmtan has updated Monster Wiki with the discount times, they did switch from 10 to 30% during it but at least you get to know when they are.

As for this bug, it did start at 10% and I ran out of coins, then I restarted the game and I think the discrepancy between 10 and 30% off has been recredited as I had 300 coins when I had about 40 before.

@tintum Yeah I knew about the times before hand, from both the wiki and this forum but changing it to 30% is too huge of a deal to make it a stealth-change. I set up an alarm for tomorrow because I planned it and thought you know, 10% today or tomorrow doesn't make a difference.

I can't really afford to stare at the game 24/7 every time social point decides to surprise the playerbase with ninja discounts for those who are currently online and checking the event out. Missing out on super cheap legendaries during monster cell week (I don't mean abusing bugs, but actual cheap prices I believe it was like 80 gems for 100 cells or something like that and it didn't last long), missing out on cheap darmith's bodyguard, missing out on another two legendaries in this maze event is just what I've experienced in the past two months.

I don't understand these complains, we where disappointed that they weren't any 20 and 30% discounts anymore now that they are back we complain that we don't know when they are.
Don't know if you are longtime players but when the 20% and specially the 30% where there and where known in front everyone saved there coins until the 30% came on so everyone spended their coins at the same time causing the game to crash, and a lot where angry because the game crashed now this solution of not knowing when the higher discounts are seems to me like a reasonable solution to this problem.

So I want to say thank you SP bringing back the higher discounts

@Marianne-van-Es To understand these complaints you have to look at it from a different perspective. It's not about what the discount offers - it's who it offers it to. Stealth changes like that create imbalanced, unfair advantages for some while putting the rest in a disadvantage.

The beautiful thing about video games are that it's limitations mean there's equal chance for everyone. Fair play. Ninja temporary offers like these remove the fair play part.

@Wololo these stealth changes as you call it are the reason the game doesnt crash because as I said before when people knew when the 30% was in forehand they only used it then and the game crashed believe me thats far more frustrating then missing a 30% discount.

So instead of complaining thank you SP and thank you @Fox for forwarding the thoughts we shared about the discounts because as soon as these halveway changes in discount where implemented I thought about our discussion about it a while back and for me this an even better solution then the one I suggested

I enjoyed the discount even though i got shafted on the first one, I will say though that the last time I sent a "thank you" to SP for the Thyra "72h challenge"which I thought was amazing and finally consistent with the possibility to do "multiple rounds" of events and the fact that the lab exists , they multiplied the number of food needed to be grown to earn one coin by 95 on the next one, making these events entirely useless ever since, so you need to be wary of enthusiasm as well because it might provoke "balancing changes" :).

@tintum I wanted to set things right because this is a post to complain about the discounts and I want to let the complainers know what I think about it

btw don't think the 72hour challenge was balanced because you thanked them and Im not happy with that change either but I know now even though I'm high level I can get 1 monster now in that event not with farming but with breeding but maybe next time its something different again who knows

@Marianne-van-Es Sure I don't think I have that kind of power, I'm just saying I ve been disappointed with the way even positive feedback from (multiple) players has been used to go in the complete opposite direction afterwards, maybe it's about to change with Sam's post and the increased involvement of staff on the forum, we shall see

I agree with most of your original post otherwise, although I've never encountered a crash during the initial 30% off maze discounts.

@tintum said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

I agree with most of your original post otherwise, although I've never encountered a crash during the initial 30% off maze discounts.

It wasn't a crash like you where kicked out of the game but more that you couldn't get into the maze itself until discount was over.

@Marianne-van-Es You don't seem to get the point I'm making or the issue I'm addressing. I'm fine with a 30% discount, I'm fussed by the fact that only few get to reap it's benefits.

For example a person who spent less time in game, collecting less coins than me can get better rewards in the event solely because of that one ninja discount. Do you think that's fair? No, it's not. It's extremely frustrating.

@Wololo why everyone can use that discount just log out and in during discount time and dont spent it at the beginning

@Marianne-van-Es said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

@Wololo why everyone can use that discount just log out and in during discount time and dont spent it at the beginning

In that case if you'd kindly lend me your time machine so I can jump back in time to use that discount, thanks.

Just to clarify something here: I understand some people are upset about different and unannounced discounts. I see why this is frustrating, but this thread was actually intended to be about something even worse. During this 30% discount that happened, I only got the 10% discount. It wasn't until other people mentioned it that I thought about restarting the app. But after the restart changed the 10 to 30, it was already too late and I wasted my coins. Like @Wololo alluded to, there was no way we would have known about doing this, so you really can't blame us for not thinking about restarting for a higher discount since it has never happened in other mazes.

@Boris It happened on this one, the one before and the one before that so that's no argument and as I explained again in the old times where where announced 30 % discounts they would "crash" the game ergo more frustrating

@Boris out of habit I always close the game for many reasons that will give you the 30%

@Wololo it isn't selective as to who gets the discount all they need to do is close the game and reopen it

@Wololo I missed it too because I went to bed early my own choice I new the discount was o my 11 pm but I was tired and went to bed also because I knew I would go for the last 20 minutes of the discount but sleep was more appealing at that moment, now I wished i made a different choice but that's on me an not on SP (wow that rhymes)

@annihilator said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

@Wololo it isn't selective as to who gets the discount all they need to do is close the game and reopen it

How am I supposed to do that when life keeps me busy and I can't log in at all. It's selective because it's a short, one time game-changing opportunity. Like I said it would have made the difference in rewards, instead of getting 3 legendaries I will get just one. Because I didn't log in during that one hour that we had no knowledge of in advance. That's ridiculous.

Now it looks like you blame SP because you don't have the time to log out and in (takes 2 minutes less i think) so there probably a place in this world where this timeslot for the discount was not good (hack it was for me because I was tired) but you can't give everyone the same things and word get around pretty fast on FB / Discord chat's etc

@Wololo maze discounts are all announced I admin 2 facebook groups and everything relevant is always posted by someone, now incliudine the storrage which will cost 7000 gems to open 121 slots. Hope I don't get in trouble again. @Moderators remove if not allowed.

@Wololo said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

@Marianne-van-Es said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

@Wololo why everyone can use that discount just log out and in during discount time and dont spent it at the beginning

In that case if you'd kindly lend me your time machine so I can jump back in time to use that discount, thanks.

Ok I must be missing the point here, during an event there are several discount hours, and they range them for different times, so you would need to pick the ones that are convenient for you and make the most of them then. If you are not able to do any of them...well I got nothing for you. You will have to make the decision how you can make them work for you. Unfortunately if the percentage of discount changes between them, well then again that is a decision that you need to make. Do I think an hour is too short of a time, of course it is but they offer enough of them that you can space out how you use them. I'm sorry but if you are not able to strategically use them, then you have no one to blame but yourself. Yes we all have life's issues to take care of but we all must find a way to fit in what we can in the time we are given.

@annihilator said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

@Wololo maze discounts are all announced I admin 2 facebook groups and everything relevant is always posted by someone, now incliudine the storrage which will cost 7000 gems to open 121 slots. Hope I don't get in trouble again. @Moderators remove if not allowed.

LOL well you did post inaccurate info because it is not 7000 gems for 121 slots.... but sadly not that far off..

@Boris said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

Just to clarify something here: I understand some people are upset about different and unannounced discounts. I see why this is frustrating, but this thread was actually intended to be about something even worse. During this 30% discount that happened, I only got the 10% discount. It wasn't until other people mentioned it that I thought about restarting the app. But after the restart changed the 10 to 30, it was already too late and I wasted my coins. Like @Wololo alluded to, there was no way we would have known about doing this, so you really can't blame us for not thinking about restarting for a higher discount since it has never happened in other mazes.

Me too unfortunately, by the time I realized it I had already made all my moves. Oh well is all I can say. LOL, but keep in mind I have low expectations or desire for this maze so this actually does not bother me in the grand scheme of things. In the future, I would suggest you check what it is before moving, log out and log back in to see if it changes. Hopefully it will not go from a higher one to a lower one...

@annihilator said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

@Wololo maze discounts are all announced I admin 2 facebook groups and everything relevant is always posted by someone

All info I could find had discount values always at 10%.

Please point my way to any post that included information on a 30% discount before it was live. I would honestly like access to such sources of information, for future events.

@Wololo it was not announced as 30% only 10%

@annihilator Are you trolling me?

All along I'm trying to make it clear using logic and myself as an example how the very fact that it's not announced makes for an unpleasant game experience that could be easily avoided by making opportunities equal for everyone.

@Wololo said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

@annihilator Are you trolling me?

All along I'm trying to make it clear using logic and myself as an example how the very fact that it's not announced makes for an unpleasant game experience that could be easily avoided by making opportunities equal for everyone.

When does a game announce these things? I play many games and have been playing various ones for many decades and there are not many that would provide this information. It is usually found and provided by either other games and/or third parties. If you have been playing the game for some time you can be pretty suave about rooting out this information and plan your actions accordingly.

Honestly I am confused as to why gamers are expecting things from this company that you do not get from other companies and then get upset when it does not happen. As the user stated, this information is usually given out in advance by other games so I am not sure how this is making an unpleasant gaming experience for you except for the fact you did not do your due diligence and root out this information in advance. If this is your first event experience while playing the game then yes I can see how that would happen. But now that you do know, you should gather all the relevant information so that you can achieve the most that you can during these events within the price range you are comfortable with. If this is not your first event in the game, then I am sorry you have no one to blame but yourself. The wiki admin, this forum and the ML facebook group is very good about giving out the information for events. Heck even the Taringa leak site is almost 100% accurate with advance information.

As to that, as to the issue that the OP started with, the only solution I can think of is to make sure you have logged out and then back in before you start to move during a discount hour, to ensure you are getting the correct discount percentage.

@Nynaevelan said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

When does a game announce these things? I play many games and have been playing various ones for many decades and there are not many that would provide this information. It is usually found and provided by either other games and/or third parties. If you have been playing the game for some time you can be pretty suave about rooting out this information and plan your actions accordingly.

Since literally always. It's common practice to announce limited time special offers with detailed information. You can see it in literally every game that has special, limited-time events.
You can see it in ML itself at any given time, currently there being:
Special decoration in monsterwood - Time remaining 2d20h46m
Monster week: express offers! - Time remaining 6d 19h 46m
Rune experience - Time remaining 2h 18h 46m

These are all limited time special offers - discounts. Just like the maze one. Except the maze one lasts only one hour, making the fact that it was unannounced that much worse.

I mean, what's the point of a limited-time special offer if you don't announce it on time? To piss off those who missed out? Because that's what happens.

@Wololo said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

@Nynaevelan said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

When does a game announce these things? I play many games and have been playing various ones for many decades and there are not many that would provide this information. It is usually found and provided by either other games and/or third parties. If you have been playing the game for some time you can be pretty suave about rooting out this information and plan your actions accordingly.

Since literally always. It's common practice to announce limited time special offers with detailed information. You can see it in literally every game that has special, limited-time events.
You can see it in ML itself at any given time, currently there being:
Special decoration in monsterwood - Time remaining 2d20h46m
Monster week: express offers! - Time remaining 6d 19h 46m
Rune experience - Time remaining 2h 18h 46m

These are all limited time special offers - discounts. Just like the maze one. Except the maze one lasts only one hour, making the fact that it was unannounced that much worse.

I mean, what's the point of a limited-time special offer if you don't announce it on time? To piss off those who missed out? Because that's what happens.

I disagree, these are sales events the discount periods are not. Not to mention these sale events only show up WHEN they are on sale so with your example they would have a banner at the time they are on, so how is that preplanning when you wouldn't know until that time and if you have not logged in during the hour, you still miss it.

Nah I prefer to get the info from third party people, they think like a player and release info relevant to the player not the gamer.

@Nynaevelan It's not difficult to create a banner that stands for the duration of the maze event, listing discount times. Or adding an article about it in the "settings > updates" news section which is way underused given the frequency of events.

I don't understand the logical process behind considering obsolete information relevant. How does knowing there -was- an event that I missed out helpful regarding that same event? Like I said, I don't have a time machine.

@Nynaevelan give up I did, he or she sees it the way he or she wants to see it we both give
valid arguments that counter his or hers arguments but its a endless discussion

I've provided ideas how to address with both the OPs and my own problem (and every other player who was in the same boat) in the future in a very simple yet constructive manner.

I can't fathom why you'd want to counter argue against something we'd all benefit from that comes with virtually no cost for the SP development and news teams nor the players while at the same time saving us unnecessary grief.

@Nynaevelan said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

which will cost 7000 gems to open 121 slots.

LOL well you did post inaccurate info because it is not 7000 gems for 121 slots.... but sadly not that far off..

Little bit off topic but actually it is 7300 for the 121 slot , he wasn't exaggerating

So back to topic

regarding player who get 10% and after spending coins he read that it is 30 % .. i think as tintum said if you restart the game in most case the coin difference will be refunded
@boris are you sure you didn't get the difference back ?

@Haka-Taka I can't remember, but I didn't think I received more coins after restarting.

@Haka-Taka said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

@Nynaevelan said in Inconsistent / unfair maze coin discount:

which will cost 7000 gems to open 121 slots.

LOL well you did post inaccurate info because it is not 7000 gems for 121 slots.... but sadly not that far off..

Little bit off topic but actually it is 7300 for the 121 slot , he wasn't exaggerating

How do you figure, I have it at 9306 to open 121 slots?? And that is with the first two for free so to pay for 121 slots that is 9406. Again that is assuming 31 to 35 is 45 and all after are 50 gems.