I’m very near to the point that as Sam already reached, this last thing (read Vault) has brought me there I will give it another month and hope that all will change.
There were some changes that in events that I didn’t like but could understand. But the last change to pvp not only the refresh button absence but also the matchup and the slot prices in the Vault brings me to the same point Sam reached before me.
Im sad and angry at the moment. Sad because I think this post has no use at all and I have to say goodbye to my ML family, my team. Angry because the answer we got from SP why they choose to price the vault slots like that disrespect the players. Maybe you ask yourself disrespect? Yes disrespect because the reasoning they give use is bs. Point 3 (already mentioned in a earlier post) is the biggest one followed with point 5 and point 6.
Point 3 doesn’t make any sense I and Im sure most (high leveled) players use gold to buy Islands and habitats.
Point 5 like all players that haven’t got room anymore we want to place new (legendary) habitats to replace fire/earth/nature etc
Point 6 discount (even if its 50%) is still too expensive
So I will give it still the month of October If then things hasn’t changed I will take my break and maybe return when things become better

I too have recently followed in Sam’s footsteps and stopped playing the game. It was hard to do but has, so far, turned out to be a great choice. I am way less angered by SPs b.s. because it validates that the decision to quit was a good move. Plus I was able to buy Madden for $60 that, until recently, would’ve went into SPs bank account.

I too am seriously considering this option, not only to stop ML but whether i should stop DC as well.

I'm not planning to follow Sam out the door, as I already have too much $$ invested. Wit that said, from here on out, I intend to become an FTP player and will not purchase any more gem packs until they resolve this fiasco. They say money talks, so I'm letting my wallet do the talking.

@Marianne-van-Es You play too big of a role in the community. This is something i fear that the moderators at SP don't know. I wish that they tried to see the inner workings of an elite team. Like " UnderCover Boss" hehe. Seriously. I am so sad to see so many of my friends upset with the changes in game play over the last year. This game is built on COMMUNITY.

It’s so true how important community is to this game. Most of us have made lot of friends with whom we communicate daily through facebook chat. These friendships feel somewhat connected to the game since that’s where most of them originated. That makes quitting ML much more difficult because you feel like you might lose those friends. But it doesn’t have to be that way.

One suggestion I have is to find other mobile games to play together. There’s a lot of fun games that aren’t as involved as ML. There’s many games that you can have a friends list and challenge them whenever you want. This way if/when you stop playing ML you’ll still have that “connection” with all your friends.

If nothing else finding another way to connect with your friends will ensure that if you are still playing ML it isn’t because of your friends; something that’s free and not exclusive to SP.

I must say all these problems stem from the lab, which made new monsters irrelevant to most, made runes which increase stats but base % an even bigger increase, thereby making PvP harder because of the skill gap and no refresh.

I will wait a little, 2 pvp seasons perhaps, for PvP refresh to come back, if it doesn't, this game lost another player.

@KungFuHamster
Indeed. The camaraderie and relationships via team wars is the only thing left in this game. Finding another platform to do that is the way to go. This one’s over.

I was already doing some looking. Anyone have any recommendations for another breed/feed/collect game?

@PredakingX I agree. Well I think it was other things as well. I felt like I needed to read a book just to keep up with all the changes. One thing I never liked is that monsters you could only buy in team shops were allowed to be played in PvP battles. It seemed like monsters that weren't able for everyone shouldn't be where everyone was.

But every change SO makes it harder to compete. I want to play but I don't want the aggravation. My kids & other people I know who played stopped a year ago.

After 3 years of playing I am just about there. SP has ruined every aspect of the game except for team wars, which is just about dead now too because of the Nemesis monsters. If they are not removed from the books here in the next week or two, I am done.

@sansot said in “Following” in Sam’s footsteps:

I was already doing some looking. Anyone have any recommendations for another breed/feed/collect game?

Dragon Soul has been getting my money for the last 6 months.

@sansot 8 Ball Pool is a game worth spending some money on.

As for a fighting game, why not Mortal Kombat X?

Dragon Soul - this looks pretty good actually, but what are the graphics like?

Seems there are Guild Wars, Boss Pits (choose the boss and choose its level - sounds really cool actually), Titan Temples, PvP in the Coliseum (is this real-time?), The Mountain, and Challenges.

So much more to do than in ML!

@sansot said in “Following” in Sam’s footsteps:

Anyone have any recommendations for another breed/feed/collect game?

My Singing Monsters

I have been playing Angry Birds Evolution. It is quite fun and has a lot of stuff to do. It also has teams and PVP. Daily challenges.

I have no desire to "play other games".
Has SP played the game at all levels: Beginner , simi competitive, and elite? Do they have a team they can ask questions too that is dedicated to player satisfaction ? Could they hire someone to report on feedback from the game Non-biased. I like the idea of an "undercoverBoss" they go in and truly see the game and experience the game for 1 month. They get into; Discord, forums, facebook. This person would be paid for their time. There has a to be a solution to the unrest i see all over ML other than Play another game.

... sad to see all the regulars leave. I'll definitely keep playing team wars for a while longer, but since I have returned from my trip a few days ago I have spent less than 30 minutes on the game and it didn't really pull me back.

When I first logged in, I received my reward for the last PvP season. I have done 3 fights yesterday and I am still sitting on 4.069k trophies, so I'll cash in on my reward for the current season tomorrow with only 3 battles fought - LMAO. I think that more than proves the point that PvP is not worth playing anymore!!!

And I might check out Dragonsoul @Keith-Romberg maybe we can reconnect there at some point, but I do hope that you'll stick around with us for a while longer!

@David-ML said in “Following” in Sam’s footsteps:

... so I'll cash in on my reward for the current season tomorrow with only 3 battles fought - LMAO. I think that more than proves the point that PvP is not worth playing anymore!!!

Or maybe it shows that you're content to be in the league you're in, and aren't looking to move up. I fall into that category as well, I fight just what I need to maintain my current reward, and I'm happy.

The whole undercover boss idea sounds good on the surface but doesn’t seem necessary. We’ve given SP more than enough feedback about the things we dislike or want changed. They just don’t seem interested in doing anything about it. More accurately they aren’t motivated to listen to us. This isn’t a matter of them not understanding the “problems” with the game but more about these “problems” don’t negatively effect them.

As long as enough people are hooked on this game like heroin addicts, SP has no real reason to change anything. They just ignore our complaints while counting their profits. But once enough people stop spending money or quit the game entirely, SP will then feel the consequences of not listening to us and be forced to change.

I didn’t want to play another game at first either. There just wasn’t anything out there more appealing to me than ML. But ultimately I decided to just go ahead and do it because

1. ML itself has become less and less appealing.
2. ML is on the fast track to dying so eventually I’m gonna be looking for another game anyway.
3. And most importantly- Having another option besides ML available to connect with friends made me feel much less reliant on the game.

Bottom line is we can’t continue to do the same things and expect different results. Once enough people realize this and become less dependent on the game, the balance of power will shift and we will be the ones with all the leverage. Only then will we get the changes we want.

@Bruce-Hamilton said in “Following” in Sam’s footsteps:

@David-ML said in “Following” in Sam’s footsteps:

... so I'll cash in on my reward for the current season tomorrow with only 3 battles fought - LMAO. I think that more than proves the point that PvP is not worth playing anymore!!!

Or maybe it shows that you're content to be in the league you're in, and aren't looking to move up. I fall into that category as well, I fight just what I need to maintain my current reward, and I'm happy.

Same here, though i will say legend 4 was always my only goal.

@Nynaevelan im not complaining but I somehow dont think it was intended to stop pvp untill season is over. I did 13 attacks this season, I lost 1 and I am in L4 as I always have been but that is because defense won in the beginning. So this season conclusion is fight till you are there where you belong (or think you belong) and stop pvp for the rest of the season

@Marianne-van-Es true, however I got bumped out of Legend IV which means that tomorrow I will go down form 3.93 trophies to 3.5, and have to get 500 just to get back to where I belong, if PvP doesn't change back I wont even attempt that, I will just delete the app. This season is the last straw, if they don't fix it by Season 8 they lost another player.

@PredakingX I totally understand I myself give it the month October to make that decision hope to see changes in both pvp and the vault and hopefully some other things like race and wars

@PredakingX

Last time I finished a season in gold one my trophy level did not change - I think that only happens once you hit 4K or more.

@Bruce-Hamilton No, it shows that once you have reached legendary IV you can quit playing. I have tried very hard to get to legendary III on a few occasions, but it is simply unachievable unless you throw lots of gems at it and don't mind to get incredibly frustrated in the process. PvP is broken like so many other things in this game. It's just not worth playing it anymore!

They call it "legendary" for a reason, you have to be among the top percentage of players. You certainly can't expect to climb the ladder as easily as Gold or Silver.

@Bruce-Hamilton said in “Following” in Sam’s footsteps:

They call it "legendary" for a reason, you have to be among the top percentage of players. You certainly can't expect to climb the ladder as easily as Gold or Silver.

I agree...and since 3 and higher you would have to fight to be in the top xxx, I knew this was not something I was interested in doing, hence my goal of being in Legendary 4 and staying there.

This pvp is ridiculous and frustrating. Goodbye to season 8 pvp.

@DoNPaRe said in “Following” in Sam’s footsteps:

This pvp is ridiculous and frustrating. Goodbye to season 8 pvp.

I believe that now that we are in a new season there will be the usual painful feeding frenzy, which amounts to 1 step forward and 2-3 steps backward.

@Bruce-Hamilton No it doesn't work like that. No offense but if you have been in legendary IV for a while, you will know the frustration. Majority of the players are at legendary IV and many of us including myself, know that it is impossible to climb higher to legendary 3. It was already hard enough to do it when there was the refresh button. Now without the button, it is straight up impossible. You are up against the legendary III players with all level 130 monsters, level 10 speed, Nemesis etc. In short, big spenders. SP's excuse is " You need to work harder " aka SPEND harder. But I am sorry. It doesn't work that way. A lot of players, including myself find that this game is dying, and certainly PVP is one of the contributors. I only play a few rounds on pvp today just to make sure I have enough trophies to stay at the border of legendary IV. There's no point to play PVP anymore. It used to be fun and challenging. I have been playing PVP since I first started playing this game 3 years ago. Things have changed. It is going downhill and I don't see how things will get better. Period.

@TCML-Lead Yep, with the timed challenges Fight Knights and Stolen Food, PvP used to be a major component of my weekend gaming. This has now been reduced to 1 x 3 fights toward the end of the season as there is no other incentive to play it anymore. There was also a bit of competition between our team members in regards to trophies - also gone now. So what's left of PvP for the mid and upper mid-level player? Nothing!

@Kaiju Yep. I have already lost 2 defensive battles for 43 & 44 trophies. Of course my attacks net me 18-20 trophies if I am lucky to find a team to fight.