@yomi-que

Precision boosts both the to hit chance and the chance of the effect landing.

So for example, an AoE stun will usually be 90% accuracy (chance to hit) and 'may stun', which is 100% effect. Assume the targets all have Bulwark, and the attacker has Precision.

The 90% accuracy hit becomes 135% (90% increased by 50%) so the attack hits all targets.

The effect check of 100% is reduced by Bulwark to 50%, then increased by Precision to 75% (50% increased by 50%).

@yomi-que it does boost applying effects too. I can regularly land stuns on Hardened+ monsters (even Bulwark) with precision (even 50% chance to land effects too).

@siberity wiki is not official, it’s a fan made website, I guess it’s just a mistake. It would be really cool if this warmaster could bypass area dodge trait, but I really don’t think so. Shademoon is a huge counter to him, he will wipe every base that has Sherezar as denier.

@yomi-que said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

@c0ntr1v3d So in the case of your Great Anagram Stun tests, what did the precision boost? The hit or the stun chance?
Because I'm under the impression that precision only boosts the chance of hitting not applying status effects.

Precision boosts both.

now that sherezar is out, let me know: who do you think is better, him or thalassa?

help me choose wisely!

@jimmy I dont like Talassa that much so i say magic

@marianne-van-es whos tallassa

Is it just me or does Sherezar's exclusive relics looks really weak?

The trap is harder to trigger than Oblation Trap, and a stamina recharging relic, he won't really need since he can't survive Shademoon.

Compared to what Babari and Remntar got, is pretty sad. At least give him something to be a bit tankier so Shademoon can't one shot him.

@jimmy Sherezar has an excellent trait, and nice supporter-denier moves, but if you're looking for an OP denier whom you wouldn't mind working on long term, Thalassa should be your target. There's still no proper counter to a rank 4+ Thalassa

@insert-history-and-politics-here sorry Thalassa

@jimmy said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

now that sherezar is out, let me know: who do you think is better, him or thalassa?

help me choose wisely!

Thalassa is better. Any chimpanzee with a ranked Thalassa can win.

Sherezar seems much more fun. I most certainly will get him, not her.

@ekto-gamat

I noticed that the magic one can't disable trait but it's faster than thalassa.

@jimmy technically he can deny Thalassa (CDA or random control effect), but the amount of Ults under CDA is ...
And we know how broken her Ult is ...

@keki14

It seems that the only one who can resist thalassa and sherezar power is the little neobuki

@jimmy shademoon will kill every team where sherezar is main denier (and many other spirit warmasters/nemesis).

Sherezar can’t do anything to shademoon at all. If you run single target positive effects removal vs shademoon you won’t be able to do anything with other 2 monsters on his team. You won’t even be able to deny shademoon after using single target positive effects removal because it doesn’t have extra turn. You need to run second denier vs shademoon and if it’s the case, it’s easier to run ingenica/ruby duo or just run thalassa, but you can’t always do that due to restrictions. If you can’t stop shademoon, he will just kill you in one hit thanks to spirit hater, but somehow SP thinks that magic warmaster needs stamina more than Uriel’s essence. Sherezar is countered and outclassed as a denier before he’s even released unless his skills are gonna be changed. Same goes for his exclusive relics.

@relux but neobuki, with the help of elvira, could survive!!

@jimmy you can’t always use neobuki+elvira to counter him due to restrictions. Sherezar vs Shademoon will be a popular matchup in wars cause they share the same element and they are both in spirit book.

@relux said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

Sherezar is countered and outclassed as a denier before he’s even released unless his skills are gonna be changed.

I would not use him as a denier. Slap teamspeed on him and use him for his trait and support moves/secondary denial.

@relux on attack you can remove all effects and then cd activate

@ibobs72 his “remove all effects” is aoe and should be blocked by shademoon. Unless it’s coded as 3 separate single target spells, but nothing states this in the description.

@Ekto-Gamat I’m leaning towards giving him team speed as well, but for some reason SP is advertising him as a very fast denier, so Xiron with her accuracy and rng issues will stay as the “best” magic denier then, which is quite sad, because I really don’t want to use her as denier anymore, she is too unreliable even on first turn without “recently controlled” effects. Oh and if he’s gonna be ts holder then thalassa is the only pure denier out of all warmasters.

@relux said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

@ibobs72 his “remove all effects” is aoe and should be blocked by shademoon. Unless it’s coded as 3 separate single target spells, but nothing states this in the description.

The description is a single target attack that removes all effects in play. Sounds pretty absolute to me. Dodge Area is just a less effective version of Evasion. I don't see why a weak version of Evasion (which is stripped), would avoid being stripped.

But as always, we will be left to guess until it arrives. Just, don't do 100 laps based on an expectation that may well be wrong.

Edit: Thanks to Xargul, I could test:

So there you go. Great Dispel strips Dodge Area as expected.

@relux said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

@Ekto-Gamat I’m leaning towards giving him team speed as well, but for some reason SP is advertising him as a very fast denier

Deniers sell better.

There is nothing in his skills that make him a denier except for the GROUP 4 (!!!) Cooldowns Activated. Which is not exactly the best form of denial since you can still be stomped by 0 CD skills and specials.

He is an excellent supporter/disruptor hybrid. I cannot think of any situation in which I want him to go first. A lovely teamslave he will be.

@ekto-gamat said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

@relux said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

@Ekto-Gamat I’m leaning towards giving him team speed as well, but for some reason SP is advertising him as a very fast denier

Deniers sell better.

There is nothing in his skills that make him a denier except for the GROUP 4 (!!!) Cooldowns Activated. Which is not exactly the best form of denial since you can still be stomped by 0 CD skills and specials.

He is an excellent supporter/disruptor hybrid. I cannot think of any situation in which I want him to go first. A lovely teamslave he will be.

I must disagree.

While he is most certainly a very effective team speed slave due to his trait (and some skills such as Rejuvenation also work very nicely in a team speed configuration), he has Random Spellbook in G4 too, which applies a random control effect to all enemies (bypassing all resistance and cannot miss) as well as a random torture effect, and a random positive effect to all teammates (from a very nice menu of positive effects).

Great Dispel strips all effects - Evasion, Skill Mirror, Damage Mirror, etc - and gives an extra turn, leading in to Random Spellbook. That seems to me a perfectly justifiable reason to have Sherezar go first.

@c0ntr1v3d said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

@ekto-gamat said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

@relux said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

@Ekto-Gamat I’m leaning towards giving him team speed as well, but for some reason SP is advertising him as a very fast denier

Deniers sell better.

There is nothing in his skills that make him a denier except for the GROUP 4 (!!!) Cooldowns Activated. Which is not exactly the best form of denial since you can still be stomped by 0 CD skills and specials.

He is an excellent supporter/disruptor hybrid. I cannot think of any situation in which I want him to go first. A lovely teamslave he will be.

I must disagree.

While he is most certainly a very effective team speed slave due to his trait (and some skills such as Rejuvenation also work very nicely in a team speed configuration), he has Random Spellbook in G4 too, which applies a random control effect to all enemies (bypassing all resistance and cannot miss) as well as a random torture effect, and a random positive effect to all teammates (from a very nice menu of positive effects).

Great Dispel strips all effects - Evasion, Skill Mirror, Damage Mirror, etc - and gives an extra turn, leading in to Random Spellbook. That seems to me a perfectly justifiable reason to have Sherezar go first.

Yep, I somehow missed 'Random Spellbook'.

Fully ranked full speed then, lower ranked a slave. Good in either role.

@c0ntr1v3d said in Leaks -- Not official Nor confirmed Info --:

Edit: Thanks to Xargul, I could test:

So there you go. Great Dispel strips Dodge Area as expected.

Thanks so much for testing this

I just hope they don't one day change it like 6 months from now and say "whoops sorry was a bug that it strips the dodge area". You never know what is intended and what is a bug these days with new releases.

I bet it wouldn't affect Froilska, though. Her Dodge is in her trait.

drooling

Can anyone guess how much will it cost to get there ??

@esentis lots. But what is the event and when??

@ibobs72 It's a new event, treasure doors !! I guess it will be live after the master of paths.

@esentis I'm excited and sad at the same time No way I'll get those monsters ...

for anyone who wants to know a bit more about how treasure doors work, search angry birds evolution eagle mountain. While the event can differ from that, the core remains the same!

@keki14 Me neither but still it's a new event. Something new to rant on haha

@esentis that r5 Cain looks pretty good

@bellatrix True. But the more I look at it the more I realize it will be very very very expensive:(

@esentis It will be way out of reach for the standard player no way there giving away a rank 5 monster cheaply just another pander to the ptp player and another reason for me to dislike this game.

@callumarachnoid Facts. I hope they prove us wrong.

I fear this will be pure gambling, because you can lose everything you got from the event ...
Edit: I watched the Angry Birds thing ... Jesus Christ ... what a cash grab ...

As long as its playable for free(?), I don't really mind. I'd rather take a shot at this than races, myself. Besides, a lot of us were skeptical when Master of Paths came out, and now its a general favourite.... Hope they continue along that path for this one too !!!

@keki14 we've been putting up with chests and unpredictable battle mechanics, so why not try and have fun gambling a bit more?

Zameleon looks like an awesome support monster - but is he Fire or Earth?

@clackers he's fire.
@JohnML but at least we couldn't lose the contents of your chest. In this event, we can lose everything.

Unregulated Gambling in a game played by minors. Sick of this rubbish.

@keki14 Maybe I should make myself clearer: as long as I don't have to spend anything, I'm totally cool with whatever they throw at us. I have very specific expenditures for gems in mind (after the recent TL book), so most likely I won't spend on it even if given the option and if I draw anything I like, I'll just withdraw and keep it to myself
There's no way an unlucky guy like me is going to get a Nemesis egg, which in all probability would be at the very end, so, I'm kinda looking forward to see what this new event has to offer...

@johnml don't worry, I'm also cool with free things and I agree

@stvrox I once asked a SP mod on this forum why we don't have PVP with each player putting in 1 Gem, and the winner takes all.

I was told that amounts to gambling, and was not something SP wanted to do.

Nowadays, it seems they like the gambling aspect - but not in terms of gameplay, just in terms of purchases.

@clackers wow please show me the message

@marianne-van-es It was in chat on this forum, I think was @Fox but it seems I can only search back 12 months.

@clackers lol no proof it didnt happen

@clackers Can you be a bit more descriptive, I'll track it down. Feel like this is very interesting if true.

@monstrousmaniac I play Mini Clip 8 Ball Pool quite a lot, and in that game, both players bid the same amount of "cash" and the winner takes all.

I proposed that in Monster Legends, we could have varying PVP lobbies with different entry costs (1k food, 100k gold, 5 gems) and, again, the winner takes all.

A mod on here said that this equates to gambling, and was not something that they want in Monster Legends.

Soon after, they brought out the chests