I like collecting the newer monsters because I can see that they generally have better and more unique skills (though not always) and you can see where the game is heading.

Some of the older monsters are now falling away from the metagame, even Barbatos, Demise, Thetys and VoltaiK - so is there any point for a new player collecting them?

Depending on what the point of why you play this game older monsters are not worth getting. As far as the meta and the way the game is going, it is 20$ nemesis or don't bother.

@Brian-Walker Yes, that is precisely what I meant...as far as Pay to Win is concerned, the older monsters were known as VIPs. Nowadays, the equivalent is Nemeses. Even if you like the designs of Kaih, Hydrok, Zyla...is there any point wasting money on them? They don't affect the metagame anymore.

@Clackers Monsters like Zyla Thetys Timerion Demise and many other great monsters still are great in wars. Most VIPs do great on defense in fact.

It depends on the rules and the teams that face each other. In a war in which 60 players can use Timerion, Demise and Voltaik it matters little what team has most Nemeses or other new and shiny excellent monsters.

In other wars Nemeses will just rip through everything and will be a huge deciding factor in the outcome.

@Ekto-Gamat I am not talking exclusively about Wars. What about Dungeons and "PVP"?

I think if you took Team Wars out of the game, it would be somewhat threadbare.

I am waiting for some new game modes from SP to spice up ML. Adding new monsters with new traits/effects is one thing, but unless there are more arenas to use them, then it will remain stale.

@Clackers SP doesn’t care if the game sucks or not. Just keep churning out ever more powerful monsters that people will “need” to get to 130 to play. They only make money off selling monsters so the more monsters they can stuff in the game the better for them.

@testcyp Yes it is a shame, as if there was a little more effort involved it could have been a good game. But like you say there is too much effort in bringing out new monsters every 5 minutes (an average of one every 2 days actually), which makes the previous releases obsolete shortly after we pay for them.

288 legends in the game today - I was looking at the first 40 of them on wiki... only 2 of them (Metalhead and Varuna) are now still part of the metagame. I would simply ask - why are the other 38 not breedable by now?

@Clackers said in Are Older or Newer Monsters a more important part of the metagame?:

288 legends in the game today - I was looking at the first 40 of them on wiki... only 2 of them (Metalhead and Varuna) are now still part of the metagame. I would simply ask - why are the other 38 not breedable by now?

What do you mean by not part of the metagame?

@Clackers

@Clackers said in Are Older or Newer Monsters a more important part of the metagame?:

288 legends in the game today - I was looking at the first 40 of them on wiki... only 2 of them (Metalhead and Varuna) are now still part of the metagame. I would simply ask - why are the other 38 not breedable by now?

I think there are at least 10 Legendaries out of the first 40 that still occasionally or regularly appear in Elite Wars. Not because they are very good, but because sometimes they are the only monsters that can do a particular thing within a certain set of war rules.

The older L have perks, that u can rank them more easily because their cells are in the shop
But most old L monsters stats/skills/perk or all of them are outclassed by newer monsters
So its now for avg f2p players lv 120 old (usable) monsters VS lv 100 new monster

How about the rest of the trash old Legends?
Well, SP used them for breeding events to get people buying trashes to get more trashes (5% chance of not getting trash)

I would really like it if a monster could last more than 1 or 2 months before it becomes obsolete. I would like SP to find a way around this, although with their business plan, I don't think so.

@Clackers Timerion.