I am not sure if this is a defect or not, but I just fought one of the toughest PVPs ever and still won. See the image below and the team with only two on defense. When I checked out this player afterwards, they have Nishant's Pet in the one open slot, so I am not sure why they did not show up. Still that is not my question. One of these monsters or both had relics that REALLY screwed up my battle. But let me explain what I saw and hopefully some relic guru here can tell me what I ran afoul of. Neither Igursus nor PsiLotus had ANY speed runes, but some sort of "trap" relic triggered at least twice which gave -50 speed to Voltaik and Violet. I did my stamina devourers and then it was Voltaik's turn. ALL of his skills give him an extra turn, yet he only got to go twice. Is this a bug or is there some sort of evil relic out that did this?

@Golab said in What kind of relic?:

Let me guess, slowing trap lvl.1 bronze relic?

Maybe, but that is a lot more than just slowing a monster down. It also removed Voltaik's extra turn.

@Kaiju its been repared https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/4075/relic-rebalancing-changes-21-11-2017

@Marianne-van-Es said in What kind of relic?:

@Kaiju its been repared https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/4075/relic-rebalancing-changes-21-11-2017

I am not sure that it is. The way Voltaik used to work is that when he would go he would go in speed order, but once his turn comes up he can take as many turns as he has stamina for. So some removed his ability to take another turn. Unless they are changing the game mechanics and spreading Voltaiks extra attacks out into the normal "speed flow." Not sure how to describe this. All I know is that he twice on his first turn and then NEVER got another turn. If the opposing team had actually had Nishant't Pet on the board, I would have lost, but I managed to win with only Violet and Gen. Theyts. The battle went many rounds and went through the cooldowns on all my skills, but Voltaik NEVER got another turn.

If all of this was from a slow trap messing things up, then I would have to say two things:

1. They need to publish MORE about the way relics and the combat system works.
2. They released way TOO many variations on them for us to figure out and for them to debug.

@Kaiju - Check today’s update regarding relics. Absolutely mind boggling! Just shows that SP has very little regard for their customer base. Only when their top $$ generators threaten to revolt do they take action.

Thing is, the relics are only the tip of the iceberg. When you really get down to it, this game has become extremely boring.

@dzilmer said in What kind of relic?:

Thing is, the relics are only the tip of the iceberg. When you really get down to it, this game has become extremely boring.

I still enjoy playing the game. Relics can be really cool, IF they are not broken. Something is broken here, but without knowing how the battle system is supposed to work, it is hard to say what went wrong. I will give SP more time. I have not done anything with my relics other than collect them. I hate to see how ugly they can be, but what gets me is how some people have the time to figure out how to abuse the bugs.

@Kaiju yes that was the glitch it was reported: https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/3893/relic-bugs/5 - https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/3893/relic-bugs/13 - I know its about Zyla but its the same glitch and as @fox said its repared now your just unlucky it happened before the patch

Hi @Marianne-van-Es,
the extra turns not granted will be fixed with the new version, 6.0.3. Not with the todays deploy of balancing changes.
The new version should be available very soon.

@Fox sorry to enthusiastic lol but it is the extra turn glitch that I was right about I hope.
@Kaiju you have to wait a little longer to use Voltaik against a slow relic

I knew it had not been fixed yet as Zyla is useless in PVP. She is my ace in the hole but never gets another turn when used. The slowing one isn't the only one that causes this issue.

@Kaiju @Suzznee

It is anything related to speed can cause this , my teammate face monsters who got 4 extra turns !! -- the monster itself has no extra turn -- but thanks to speed relic bug
even you own relic can bug your game , once my demise got random increase in speed and when she teleported another L he didn't get the turn !!
anyway anyone tried the new version , scared to do it

@Haka-Taka They need better testing. One way to do that would have been to limit the scope of the change, as in release fewer relics.

@Haka-Taka said in What kind of relic?:

@Kaiju @Suzznee

It is anything related to speed can cause this , my teammate face monsters who got 4 extra turns !! -- the monster itself has no extra turn -- but thanks to speed relic bug
even you own relic can bug your game , once my demise got random increase in speed and when she teleported another L he didn't get the turn !!
anyway anyone tried the new version , scared to do it

From my understanding in another post it hasn't been fixed yet. Fox or Carlos posted in next few days.

@Haka-Taka I have the latest update since last night...unstable...keeps disconnecting & reconnecting...I think, it fixed the chat for those that couldn't access the in game chat for a while...& for those who were accessing other teams' chats like a poltergeist, lol

@ss13
Lol my heart was right telling me not to update , though i can downgrade easily but i know i shouldn't

Did they fixed the storage bug ? where similar monsters are not grouped together ?

@Haka-Taka lol, that's a new feature..."treasure hunting" for your own monster eggs , just like playing "musical monsters" on the habitats, just to hatch, feed, extract & rank monsters...LOL
Almost forgot...added to that now, we have "jack in the box" rewards from Monsterwood ... hilarious!

@Haka-Taka said in What kind of relic?:

@ss13
Lol my heart was right telling me not to update , though i can downgrade easily but i know i shouldn't

Did they fixed the storage bug ? where similar monsters are not grouped together ?

Storage bug not fixed.

@ss13 Love you definition but it is exactly how it feels.