Higher ranked monsters already have higher stats for an advantage.
Do they really need to have hit and damage bonuses against lower level monsters? Do they need the bonus that makes lower level monsters have less accuracy?
For a 110-115 monster trying to land a status effect or a hit against a 130, good luck. It doesn’t seem like it’s necessary.
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Post count: 254Reputation: 100Joined:@Haka-Taka so pay up or get stomped? Yeah good idea🙄
It stupid to let monsters with all speed runes wipe teams because of a 15-20 level difference.
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Post count: 2494Reputation: 976Joined:All sections are being read , at least by Sp so i moved your topic to the right place ...
Form the last meeting between sp and some game representative - not me -- sp confirmed that they work hard and seriously on team war league systemWe asked for this for months and think it will help those mis matched war
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Post count: 566Reputation: 578Joined:Level difference does not factor into whether effects land.
It also does not reduce the damage a lower level monster does to a higher level one.
It increases the damage done by a higher level monster vs a lower level one.
The increase in the Power stat through level advancement alone is not much, bearing in mind that the damage calculation factors in Power at Power/1000.
Perhaps if adjustment is required (and I don't know that it is), the LevelGreater multiplier could just reduce a little.
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Post count: 254Reputation: 100Joined:@C0ntr1v3d there has to be hit modifier with level difference. The amount of misses fighting 130 vs any other level is Shocking. And other people have complained about it so I know it’s not in my head.
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Post count: 179Reputation: 106Joined:I posted about this a few months ago, as Contrived said lower level does not affect status effect landing, but IMO Greaterlevel multiplier should absolutely be suppressed. I don't expect it to be heard but a bunch of 130 monsters vs 100-115 don't need to have their damage multiplied on top of higher speed strength life and likely class (VIP/Nemesis).
This would also make new monsters a bit more useable, as opposed to "that one thing in a corner that will never get a turn as he can be OHked by a random 130 monster with no strength rune.
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Post count: 0Reputation: 0Joined:@tintum if the damage multiplier is removed, then the incentive to rank will disappear...because, all the lower levelled teams will need is Mjolnir & a little luck to overcome the team of lvl 130s. Not sure if I can see that happening...☺
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Post count: 179Reputation: 106Joined:@ss13 Sorry that's not true, you can barely overcome a small level discrepancy with Mjolnir for speed at equal rune level. Llife and power are also way higher especially among new monsters who end up with HPs at 60+k at 130.
Would you attack a 130 thetys with a level 100 one because you have mjolnir on ? Doubt it, even at 120 it wouldn't work if the enemy is similarly runed.
I'm just saying this to let level 100 live another day and not die at the first hit from a random 130 monster who often doesn't even need a strength rune to do it.
Keep in mind also that the good folks who'd like to use level 100 monsters often do not have X runes or 130 monsters to choose from.
I think the game would be better without it and it wouldn't really take anything away from ranked monsters.
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Post count: 0Reputation: 0Joined:@tintum yes, I have attacked a level 130 Thetys with a lvl 100 Thetys...with Mjolnir, team speed, & a little bit of luck, I have won 2 coins & on luckier spells 3 coins...all depends on what the enemy's Thetys opens with. Thetys' only best skill is SD...but you're entitled to your opinion ☺
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i totally agree about lab curse - it is the worst thing happened in game ever --
but it is not logical to ask for remove power advantage of ranked aganist non-ranked ... i think the middle solution will be isolation -- war league -- and from game representive meeting Sp are working hard on it so level 100 will face level 100 without dragging all monsters to meet this levelsAnd this becoming off topic so if we need to discuss more there is alreadu a topic for that idea
https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/4108/time-to-remove-level-difference-bonus/7
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Post count: 179Reputation: 106Joined:@ss13 I said similarly runed, if somebody chooses to use thetys with no team speed and you have 5, that's on them, I doubt it'd even be a matter of Mjolnir or not at this point.
@Haka-Taka I would hope that people who get 130 monsters don't do it in the hope of killing lvl 100 monsters as their main goal...? SO that's why adding a bit of survivaibility to them wouldn't hurt anyone in the grand scheme of things. They already deal way more damage due to the power increase ranking up produces.
Also some of us do have a few 130 monsters ( mostly breedables or generals when they were affordable, I have 4 130 personnally, each took over a year to achieve and I can't say using them brings much excitement at this point), it doesn't mean we wouldn't like to test new monsters every now and then :)) It's very hard the way things are set with damage multipliers, anything new will likely be dead before it gets a turn and I'm speaking on offense, I really doubt a 100 monster would cause trouble to a full 130 player attacking him.
Sure, we could move the discussion to keep it going :) I posted here because buffed island is mostly a way to try and make people use the new monsters, I think that is a better option.
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Post count: 0Reputation: 0Joined:@tintum see, therein lies the difference between some players to others...in my scenarios, I tried to give myself the added boost of Mjolnir & team speed to give myself, albeit a small chance, of trying to win coins of my opponent. I wouldn't activate Mjolnir if I wasn't going to try...made my win of 2 coins or if lucky, 3 coins always special. Thetys has 1 good skill, SD, & that's somewhat useless, if a strong special wipes out. Sorry, I didn't want to plague the other thread, so waited. I don't like what the lab has done to the game too, but I have invested in my account, not as much as many others, but enough. Sorry, I have no intention of causing an argument with you or anyone else, but I have to defend my investment. ☺
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Post count: 560Reputation: 501Joined:Location: AustraliaI saw this a while ago and thought it over for a while and came to the conclusion that I'd also like to see the level bonus if not removed, at least drastically reduced. As others have said already, a Lvl 130 (or even a 115/120) monster already has a significant advantage. Having the level bonus removed/reduced means that you might be able to get a coin or two against a stupid AI on attack because your team doesn't get wiped before you had a chance to do a single attack.
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