I was just about to spend maybe a million or two of my race food for the Growth Spurt. The final prize is one sweeperion scroll. I know sit down. This is lot to take in. Maybe next time they will replace it with the total OP hippierion? I have heard nothing good about these monsters. I am NOT impressed with his skill set. If he is supposed to be a poor man's Timerion, I will pass. I am going to hatch and level each up to their max gold level. I have extras that I might extract. Not sure if I care.

No actually I don't at this point. I care about the gems I am missing out on.

Don't waste your food for one scroll, they've substantially loosened Monsterwood in the last 36 or so hours. Just put my second sweeper in the hatchery this morning, and I'm halfway to my third.

I was really disappointed in seeing they took away the 20 gems to give me one scroll???? I guess we are suppose to be excited about 15 M food with that one scroll, NOT!

It seems they keep trying to find ways to give us less and less gems. I don't want 1 scroll. I want the gems that I usually earn for the event.

Dont waste your time, its not worth it. Also yeah, I think Sweeperion was supposed to be an Artifact Deny Remover, which is actually kinda amazing if you think about it. If an equivalent Legendary came out with sufficient speed and less drawbacks, it would be for sure a top tier monster.

This monster has the most confusing skills I have ever seen, I have absolutely no idea what he's supposed to do

@tintum Check out my post above. Make him the fastest of the bunch. If your denier can go first, great, however, if he cant, negate the stun/ freeze or whatever with Sweeperion.

Yep, unless you can go for one of the top 500(0) rewards there is no point wasting food on this one....

....with relics added, the game requires more and more gem investment to get anywhere and yet it seems we are getting less and less free gems (PvP rewards and now food challenge, oh and the scroll in the monster dungeon was placed in the 5 gem spot, too!). I start to wonder whether SP wants to push F2P out of the game...?!?

I'm sure they will put gems back in the growth spurt challenge once this scroll event is finally over. It is annoying to lose those gens for sure

@David-ML I agree!! I am starting to feel like SP's goal is to keep only those p2w players, which if that's the case, I will walk out of this game right now!!! They took away 5 gems from monster dungeon, 20 gems on feed challenge, gems from PvP for high level league, and a ton of gems on monsterwood (replaced by absolutely thrash food and gold)!! Keep up the good work SP! You just redefined the definition of greediness!! You are almost there!! @Fox Sorry I usually have a lot of respect for you, but this game is becoming more and more not play-able!!

What is sad is that people spend more when they are happy and have a goal to work towards. Those Ftp players could be converted to P2w players if and only if the player base is kept happy. Giving away things to gain is basic business practice on keeping the customer happy. With all the recent changes and bugs in the game it is getting to where a lot of folks are throwing their hands up and moving on.

SP caters to only the players that are winning the most and only fixing bugs that affect their pocket book. Look at the example of they fixed Kassia by changing one of her skills till they can get it fixed. Although it was not affecting how they earned, but they have left the relic bug which if they fix it perhaps those buying those expensive chests will stop doing. They have not hurried to fix it by any means and in the meantime it is affecting peoples PVP level and game as well as what it may be doing to their phones, or tablets.

We have lost a lot of gems this past couple weeks as they get tighter and tighter with what they will give out and pushing more and more for us to spend. Just shaking my head here.

@Suzznee exactly! Even tho I have never spend a penny on this game, I will be happy to spend too if it is necessary! But then look at the way this game is going, I am sorry but there is absolutely no chance that I am going to spend. So, SP is doing this battle- more players are refusing to spend, and SP noticed that. They countered that by taking away more gems to force players to spend. And oh, more team races! I am sorry, that's not how it works. You are only making players more and more unhappy, and ultimately they will leave the game! If you still think short term profit is more valuable than customer experience, then I don't see how this game will last long. Hate to say this, but it is a FACT

We're losing gems, sure. However, is everyone pretty much forgetting that we're pretty much being handed out a free legendary? PVP is being changed to 2 weeks, so wth, I dont care if they exchange gems for relics once in a while. And yeah, its kinda annoying that we're missing out on the 20 gems usually given out in these challenges, but heck, if I'm getting a legendary rather than getting, like what, less than 150 gems, than I would gladly do again. 150 gems or less for a legendary is a steal, and Ingenica isnt even bad. In fact, she's the type of monster ive been waiting for a long time

@Boro-Wing
Notice that we will not get Ingenica for colleting her 3 supporter , we will be only qualified to enter ingenica quest which will be- probably - a mini progressive island and probably we will have to finish it with gems as well

@Boro-Wing come on you really think we will get ingenica if we have the three assistants? You are wayyyyy tooooo naiveeeee... like haka said, it is most likely gonna be a super hard, only for p2w mini progressive island to get ingenica. She is one of the best in game monsters with the incredible AOE disable trait skill, do you really think SP will give her out for free? Really?

We all will know soon enough what we will need or not need to get Ingenica and before it happens its speculating. so lets be happy/mad/enraged and/or totally satisfied because it was what we expected/not expected....;)

I guess we'll see. Im optimistic tho. Dont make me a fool SP.

Often when people complain about reduced rewards SP points to the fact that they are still handing out more free stuff/gems than before.

However, that point is hardly valid when they also push the player's resources further and further. You have to have gems for monsters, you have to have gems for runes, you have to have gems for 17 copies of your monsters, you have to spend money if you want the strongest monsters in the game, and now you have to have gems for relics.

When you add a new feature you don't replace one reward with another, but you add ways to get rewards for this new feature. If people are enthusiastic about this new feature they will spend money to get the better stuff.

@Boro-Wing Having to watch 40 ads a day for 15 days isn't "for free".

As for the disappearing gem rewards, once the scrolls are out the only issue will be pvp rewards, the fact we still got no comment on that is scary, we'll see with today's new season if they implemented any readjustment.

For the rest, like @Marianne-van-Es said, there are plenty of existing problems to criticize,but if you need to just be negative at least keep it until the feature is actually out.

@Ekto-Gamat spot on... consider this a 2nd upvote

@Ekto-Gamat Amen to that!!

Aaaaaand there still aren't any gems in the new pvp season, dr viktor's patrons is a shadow of its former self XD

@tintum As far as SP are concerned "spend money or F Off". It's not hard to understand is it?

Imagine how cool it would be if the challenges involved, you know, actually fighting?!

Instead of breeding quests, just complete a dungeon to get the new Monster.

@Boro-Wing so what do you think of the Ingenica progressive island now? 5 days 20 hours to get her..

@TCML-Lead From what I can see so far (second chest), you should be able to get her. Rank 2 is out of reach unless you pay gems tho, as it should be.

If you can get Ingenica the cells are cheap 39 and 79 gems

@Marianne-van-Es said in Sorry 1 sweeperion Scroll Not Worth 20 gems:

If you can get Ingenica the cells are cheap 39 and 79 gems

Figures they would give away the cell packs...

@Boro-Wing Really. So ftp are not expected to get her. Love your support for lining SPs pockets.

@shazzy said in Sorry 1 sweeperion Scroll Not Worth 20 gems:

Really. So ftp are not expected to get her. Love your support for lining SPs pockets.

The way I am reading what is being said is that we (FTP) can get Ingenica and as long as you are willing to spend a few gems you can get the cells to rank her up. Given what the rank up cell packs normally go for, this is a GREAT deal.

That said I have not even completed the first chest and if it is like other progressives there will come a time when it does not make sense to not spend a few gems.

@shazzy spending gems on an event isnt the same as p2p Im f2p and im trying to get her at the moment I have about 110 gems (135 tomorrow) maybe I get her If I can collect perfect but if i dont then I dont np. i get a couple of relics out of it hopefully some silver and gold.

@shazzy You can get Ingenica. Just not rank 2 Ingenica

I have 7 gems remaining for the first chest.

Where am I supposed to get those gems from?

@Boro-Wing I took your breeding suggestion thanks. Worked once then guess have to wait 8 hours. Only have 35 gems left. Really, will I get Ingenica? Looks a bit impossible from where I am.

@Clackers said in Sorry 1 sweeperion Scroll Not Worth 20 gems:

I have 7 gems remaining for the first chest.

Where am I supposed to get those gems from?

Dungeon, Adventure map spin, PVP spin?

@Suzznee You do realise that the roulette spins are not random? They are weighted AGAINST you getting what you want.

@Clackers do they read your mind?

@Clackers I get gems quite often on spins. I was just suggesting ways you could earn gems. Many times I go back and do Adventure Map on the ones I got 1 or 2 stars on and get gold or gems in the spin. I got 17 gems on a spin on it the other day on one of the higher islands. Some of the prizes there are quite nice.

Rubble usually has a gem or two but I haven't seen much rubble lately, but haven't moved my monsters around either. There are plenty of ways to earn gems, albeit lately some of those methods have lessened.

@Suzznee Hi. Suzznee good to see you still playing. Did you get enough free gems for ingenica cause I haven't. It's hard to give up my team too. Mostly agree with your views in community. No longer care what happens in pvp. Do dungeons and try and get any free gems going. I get or dont get Ingenica np.

@shazzy I don't know if I will get Ingenica or not. Save gems from before and have been going through them trying for her Will see. I only stayed cause I am a great team that the core cares about one another. They are truly great friends.

@Clackers said in Sorry 1 sweeperion Scroll Not Worth 20 gems:

@Suzznee You do realise that the roulette spins are not random? They are weighted AGAINST you getting what you want.

Just for your info - the chance of getting 5 gems on the wheel is 1% and the chance to get 1 gem is 4% if they haven't changed things in recent months.