Guys in SP seem to be overvaluing Trait Disabled WAYYY too much, and this is especially evident in the new and upcoming Baron Traitor. You shouldnt be relying on your trait to get you out of pinches anyway, which, on most monsters, is hardened. The game is still the same, the fast will still overcome the slow. And even if you were to argue that Ingenica is one of the fastest monsters in the whole game, she has no means to deny HERSELF, meaning, its all on the denier AFTER her to determine the battle, which... well, is the game we've been playing this entire time. Not shaming Ingenica in anyway tho, she really is above-average, however.... when you look at the future Premium Baron Traitors skills on Monster-Wiki, its just....... very underwhelming, and, frankly, his Trait Disable moves are not even viable to begin with (140 STAMINA 4 CD single target trait disable... I puke in mouth). Hopefully this doesnt become a trend in future Trait Disablers, because not only will they end up a cast-out breed, but also, future new players would have missed out on the ONLY VIABLE Trait Disabler in the game with no second chance to get her, which, in my humble opinion, is quite unfair.

@Boro-Wing I am under the impression Ingenica will be available for 249 gems around March time.

But yes, trait disabled sounds like a good thing, but it is quite overrated.

And regarding Baron Traitor's 140stamina move, doesn't Galante Jr also have a control move that takes away his stamina? So it is not without precedent.

@Clackers You mean the 140 stamina cost stamina drain right? Yeah its a horrible piece of crap...... until you realize that Barons 140 stamina cost skill isnt even a control move itself, but a move that is used in order to PREPARE for a control move. Not to mention that the single target stamina drain is at the very least unresisted. Its still a 1 for 1 trade lol

Revised skill description: "Get rid of their trait to potentially make it SLIGHTLY easier on yourself to deny them in the near-ish future, and we'll even throw in this nice 50% chance to possess as a cute bonus! Oh, but wait.... THERES MORE! Its only single target, and you completely screw yourself over by depleting yourself of all stamina ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) "

@Clackers said in Lets address a problem already kinda evident in Trait Disablers before its too late:

I am under the impression Ingenica will be available for 249 gems around March time.

I'd be very surprised if that happens. Ingenica is the forge's version of the library Keeper, haven't seen him at 249 yet.

Let's hope they add an event that uses her in breeding... lol!

@Clackers said in Lets address a problem already kinda evident in Trait Disablers before its too late:

I am under the impression Ingenica will be available for 249 gems around March time.

no she wont the only way you could obtain her was this event

Agree with the above posts, Ingenica probably wont be available for future purchase. Quite a shame honestly, because I could have considered using her at 130 :(

@Boro-Wing said in Lets address a problem already kinda evident in Trait Disablers before its too late:

Agree with the above posts, Ingenica probably wont be available for future purchase. Quite a shame honestly, because I could have considered using her at 130 :(

there will be cells in future to rank her up for peops that have her

@Marianne-van-Es Even then...... think of the young ones in the future man sniff sniff, theyll be left with nothing for their Trait Disabler needs.

@Boro-Wing said in Lets address a problem already kinda evident in Trait Disablers before its too late:

@Marianne-van-Es Even then...... think of the young ones in the future man sniff sniff, theyll be left with nothing for their Trait Disabler needs.
Don't think so :) Ingenica is the first one with this skill but i am sure many will follow later and baron traitor is around the corner ;)

@Haka-Taka Read my post again. There will definitely be future Trait Deniers, thats not the problem. Its just........ well, just look up his skills on Monster wiki. You can clearly tell that SP overvalues Trait Disabled way too much

The Keeper's cells were on sale in the lab not too long ago, & his cells are somewhat accessible if you fill the right chapters... Ingenica may make an appearance in the lab, in the form of cells. I don't really think that Ingenica will "never" come on sale in the near future...she probably will, I imagine. ML is still a collector's game too ☺