Hi all,

I Hope you have been succesfull in Race, Dungeons etc during the weekend. Busy time, I´d say!

However I sent this message to Socialpoint (your comments are welcome):

"Calling for the disqualification of the team XXX from the "TITAN INVASION" race.

Dear Socialpointers,

It is with much disbelief, but nevertheless well founded I have to ask you to nullify the participation of the team XXX from the current Titan event.

Our Team, YYY, consist of very experienced players from former top 1-5 teams.
As many other teams we participates in the current Titan Invasion event.
We where well in the lead when suddenly another team literally over night (in europe any way!) managed to gain, pass us and double our points.
Indeed an incredible achievement!

It was so incredible we could not believe it - as you probably know: this event is more demanding/exhausting than any other event before.
I personally had the longest battles - 2 hrs and 17 min before - in just one of the battles with the monster.

Some of my teammates began looking deeper into the the above mentioned team. And they found unmistakenly signs of cheating.

In the beginning I thought they just used one baby-account for cheating - after all that is all a team needs to win a team race (one account "gemming" the nodes of the event and thereby avancing the whole team).

But in this case the cheating was much broader.

I did not research the whole team, but just these five (not random, but just starting with the weakest members who by the way has all the past team race monsters, and ending with the lead). I found and documented cheating in all five:

Team: XXX
Name Screenshot
Player 1 E an R in Legendary Habitats (Musu, Razfesh, Pandaken etc)
Player 2 E an R in Legendary Habitats (Musu, Razfesh, Pandaken etc)
Player 3 Super Habitat Management (either more than 4 Ls in each or multiple layers)
Player 4 E and R in Legendary Habitat (Freeza, Orca and many others)

Player 5 Freeza, Nautilus in Legendary Habitat
Player 5 At least 8 Timerions floating behind Legendary habitat in foreground

I am sure that all players participating in this "Titanic" event acknowledges the effort of the winning teams. That is just fair and square!

But I am also sure that most Monster Legend Players fighting so hard and in earnest dislikes (to say at least) teams or players winning in dishonest ways and want to see such teams disqualified."

In this forum I can show the screendumps (I erased the players names!):

Tell me - is it as apparent to you as it is to me?

@Fox I hope you take the above report VERY seriously and make it a priority to get rid of these cheaters/hackers. Players like this ruin the game for everyone else!!!

Edit: removed the tag for Carlos, as he is monster development.

The only positive I can tell about this is that this is the same already been reported by me and several other players, I truly dont understand why they are still around

Hi @Jorgen-Schultz,

We are currently investigating. As of now, we don't know if they are cheating or if it's a visual bug from our side. Please, let us first investigate and I will let you know as soon as I know anything more concrete.

This is very concerning indeed. But having E and R monsters in L habitats is not a sign of cheating in the Titan Event.

What would be more of a concern to me is if these players/this team is likely to achieve such a feat over night.

We are in a Titan Race with Los Cracks de Espana and shortly after we passed them they almost scored a 100 million points within 4 hours. But we know they are perfectly capable of doing so if they set their minds (and gems) to it, so nothing suspicious there.

Anyone thinks that SP should prioritize in getting rid of these cheaters rather than giving us consecutive events that forces us to participate in?

UPDATE: NICE CATCH THOUGH, YOU DID THE RIGHT THING REPORTING

@Fox said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

Hi @Jorgen-Schultz,

We are currently investigating. As of now, we don't know if they are cheating or if it's a visual bug from our side. Please, let us first investigate and I will let you know as soon as I know anything more concrete.

Thanks - since SP has all the data I trust your investigation!

As Ekto Gamat pointed out: having E and R monsters in L habitats is not itself a sign of cheating in Titan Event. But it is a sign of a willingness to seek out "alternative" solutions - after all: 5 more or less random players seems to be capable of breaking the rules concerning Legendary Habitats (server side!) and apparently also the space they occupy.
I have heard of tools that can manipulate the local memory, so one can "show off" making a video, but making it stick serverside shakes me a bit - what else can such a tool manipulate with: skills, power, health...gems?

@Ekto-Gamat said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

This is very concerning indeed. But having E and R monsters in L habitats is not a sign of cheating in the Titan Event.

If you’re hacking to get E and R monsters into L habitats, you’re cheating. That carries over to all events within the game, in my opinion.

@Bruce-Hamilton said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

@Ekto-Gamat said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

This is very concerning indeed. But having E and R monsters in L habitats is not a sign of cheating in the Titan Event.

If you’re hacking to get E and R monsters into L habitats, you’re cheating. That carries over to all events within the game, in my opinion.

Exactly! It is cheating the game no matter how you look at it.

@Suzznee said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

@Bruce-Hamilton said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

@Ekto-Gamat said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

This is very concerning indeed. But having E and R monsters in L habitats is not a sign of cheating in the Titan Event.

If you’re hacking to get E and R monsters into L habitats, you’re cheating. That carries over to all events within the game, in my opinion.

Exactly! It is cheating the game no matter how you look at it.

No one says it is not. But if it's just tampering with habitats SP should only take action against these individuals. If it is also cheating in the Titan Race the entire team should be disqualified.

@Ekto-Gamat it started with only 1 player with 4 accounts now there are more so he or she is sharing his/her knowledge to the rest of the team. Maybe not all the team is doing it didnt check but with letting players stay on your team your condoning it

@Marianne-van-Es , condoning what, exactly..?! Leads can't kick anyone, thanks to SP's stupid rule... personally, only ones "condoning" anything, it's SP!

@ss13 This team is around for almost a halve year that I know of so plenty of time to kick I think.
And yes I agree on the part that That SP has the biggest part in the condoning this specially because this team and player(s) has been reported many times before now its only waiting on other teams to take over this hack if this not already has happened

Just to let you know how things evolve: well, so far: nothing!

Why is it that SP does nothing about cheats? Every other game I play goes through massive deletions and kickings of players that cheat. It seems with SP it goes on and on. There is another report about cheating in PVP and how long will that go on. It seems every other day someone is using a hack and SP does nothing about it.

@Jorgen-Schultz Fox did make an announcement:
https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/5401/titan-invasion-faq-updated/3

@SkeelMaster said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

@Jorgen-Schultz Fox did make an announcement:
https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/5401/titan-invasion-faq-updated/3

This was regarding teams that cheated in titan invasion , not the team jorgen mean .. while that team is down for 5 members now . so maybe 5 got banned

@Haka-Taka said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

@SkeelMaster said in Should cheating teams be disqualified from events like Titan Invasion?:

@Jorgen-Schultz Fox did make an announcement:
https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/5401/titan-invasion-faq-updated/3

This was regarding teams that cheated in titan invasion , not the team jorgen mean .. while that team is down for 5 members now . so maybe 5 got banned

I thought Jorgen meant for the team cheating in Titan Invasion?

Hi again!

We do not know if the players Fox was writing about is the same as being reported here. Anyway: who it is is not important and how exactly SP handles it, is a delicat matter and must stay between SP and the particular team/players.

What is important is the principles: is cheating being dealt with and how it influences passed events.

I reported this in the first case and I have not received any info from SP; if matters has been resolved or how they (SocialPoint) view the particular event and the prices involved (ie: does the cheating side loose their price and the rest of the teams involved in the event move up the price-ladder?).
Doing anything about the event itself is all to late - team changes in 20 days! I for one is not even on any team at the moment.

I do not know what SP regards as cheating. It is correct that some of the members on the mentioned team seams to have have gone, but as I said - the screendumps I made was just from 5 members of the team. SP said they would investigate.
Here is another screendump from today (without name):

(https://forums-static.socialpointgames.com/prod/3cdcf766-3855-4d94-875f-26231baa2355.JPG)

Who is swimming around the island in the middle? - A fatamorgana or just another case of distorted reality and not cheating at all?

That is quite concerning and SP should be doing more to resolve it. As others have said it only proves that they are cheating with L habitats. I think if someone is managing to cheat with L habitats, they are probably also cheating with other things. It's just a given is it not? Nonetheless it is still cheating, so it should be stopped.