New Earth Monster, Balor, rank 3, is the main prize of this new 7 day team race.

Other monsters used as rewards depending on your position in the race include a rank 1 Fightreer, Lagerchaun (lol), Drekk, and Shamrokku.

Not really interested. I'll help my team to get points, but otherwise I'll take it lightly.

Lagerchaun makes sense (St. Patrick's day), but still ...

a race my team not caring for..

I'm not interested either. My team cannot win the races, and the prizes this time are not worth the effort @Fox (please take this as constructive criticism).

I don't know what has happned to SP's schedule recently.

Demonic Maze and Nirvana team race still AWOL.

And when is the next Titan event?

I like Balor and his skills pretty much, would be interesting to pair him up with Scrap warrior to keep enemies totally blinded most of the time.
Apart of that 70 elementium are always handy.

Balor or nothing. Seriously, I wouldn't bother with any of the other prizes bar the Elementium. We're in a race with two teams who both hit 30+ laps in all their races so I figure we're 3rd at best

Epic breeding requirements are more extreme, lap 5 all members breed 17 epics, lap 6 one member breed 9. Must be making up for there being no races recently

The group we are in has a Team already at 8 LAPS! They are ranked #540 & minimum MP is 6,000! For some reason, we have jumped 1,000 places since yesterday (yeah sure we did) & OUR minimum MP is 436 with 29 players! What kind of craziness is this??

@Fox in the game updates you are talking about some changes, yet I cannot detect any. Can you please enlighten us....

Hey @David-ML ,

This time there is no Rank 5 monster as a reward.

@Fox Are you serious? What did you mean? I sincerely expected more after the feedback you ask of the players.

Also, do not you think the number of nodes of epic crosses and pvp battles is abusive? What a way to make us spend the gems.

@DoNPaRe yeah, after one lap we already had 2 epic nodes ...

My team is on a node where we have to breed something like 11 Epics. Really not good enough tbh. Tasks need to be easier.

@Clackers we need to breed 14, on the second lap ...

That`s the change Fox mentioned, tasks are definitely harder this time

@AndyM making an already hated event even harder is not a good decision ...

@keki14 Agree. At least they could offer out Balor up to rank 5 to be worth efforts

@AndyM no, that's even worse. Rank 3 is more than enough.

@AndyM What is the point of making team races harder? Do SP listen to ANY feedback from the players?

Clearly not.

The problem is not whether the race is difficult or not, I think. What is so frustrating is that you don't know who you are matched up against - are the teams in your group willing to spend gems or not. Because players are free to move around and teams learned to tweak the matching algo by swapping teams, the match ups are never "fair".
It is a completely different scenario with mazes and progressive islands when you can choose your own goals and pace and be sure no one is going to take it away from you by spending lots (or more then you) money. Races favor gem/money spenders and that is what is frustrating everyone.
They show you/us the prize which is achievable as a team effort during the 7 days period BUT it is taken away by those who spend most money. It is really not a team race, but a spending money race. What is even worse is that even if you are ready to spend some gems, you can never be sure it is not wasted by someone spending twice as much ...
Perhaps we could have f2p races that would not allow for skipping the nodes? - that would be a real team effort.

@peter said in Celtic Team Race (featuring Balor):

What is even worse is that even if you are ready to spend some gems, you can never be sure it is not wasted by someone spending twice as much ...

For me it's always wasted, so I stopped it. It's just doesn't worth it. Sure a rank 3 monster and 70 elementium is great, but I'm not going to spend precious resources (and time and energy) on a lost battle (and I'm not a race-hopper)

LOL @Fox I hope this was meant to be a joke! I certainly took it that way

But more seriously, are SP truly intending to fix the races and introduce a league system or some other fair system that prevents the race jumping nightmares??? At least we had a decent break since the last race which is very much appreciated!!!

https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/6000/heroic-race-black-magic-balancing-improvements-rewards-every-lap

This is an interesting direction they are taking in Dragon City racing, which, I don't know if I am being too optimistic, will hopefully in some form transition to Monster Legends.

It does seem to be more fair, so upon reaching a certain lap, the race reward can be obtained without being in 1st place.

@David-ML haaa thats is true BUT SP is trying to make up the $$$ lost by introducing more and ridiculously hard epic breedings!!!!! There are so MANYYYYYY epic breedings (individual must breed 9 or 10!!!) epics and then you have the 4 members must breed epic, and all team must breed 15 epics!! I can tell SP just raised the number of epics because they want to make up for the money they lost because how long we dont have a race! And i am only at lap 13! How many more to come!!! @Fox seriously your team need to cut down the epic breeding!!! Just put yourself in our shoe and how would you feel when you see an epic breeding every lap?? Also, seems like SP is introducing the next pay to get monster- the warmaster.. will it cost $40??? Just when I thought SP is going in the right direction, they gave me a big slap on my face...

Apart of epics there are extreme numbers of pvp to be done.. very exhausting

@TCML-Lead I wouldn't mind the epic nodes if the reward would be guaranteed (for example if you complete 14 laps, the reward is yours, no matter where you finish)

There is not much sense of giving same reward to anyone reached 14th lap. In this case who in clear mind would actually compete, go much further and by this make money for SP? Guess this will never happen.

And if we look into direction DC races are heading, there is also main price only for 1st place and bunch of smaller for all others, same as in ML now counting you reached 4+ laps.

@AndyM said in Celtic Team Race (featuring Balor):

And if we look into direction DC races are heading, there is also main price only for 1st place and bunch of smaller for all others, same as in ML now counting you reached 4+ laps.

Just an FYI about DCs races, I am not sure what the races are like in ML but in DC you are racing agains 7 others.
*...If you reach lap 5 or higher you qualify for the rewards
*...1st place gets the newest Heroic as well as the dragons rewarded for places 2-8
*...You can ALSO get the newest Heroic by reaching lap 15 regardless of how you finish.
*...Bonus reward of older Heroic if you reach lap 12

Your interpretation was incorrect in saying main prize is only available for 1st place. Anyone reaching lap 15 gets the main prize. You won’t get the other prizes offered for 1st place but will get the main Heroic.

@LilCricketPa Frankly speaking I am not playing DC so may interpret incorrectly, my bad.

However what I meant is slightly different.

As far as I understand there is no strict prize for 1st place and it varies depending on how many laps are done.

So if team does 15 laps rewards will be accumulative new heroic dragon + all the rewards given per each of 15 laps.

If team does 20 laps then rewards will be new heroic dragon + much more rewards for all the 20 laps done.

So it is no matter if many teams reached 15 laps and got new dragon if there is still 1 team who reached 20 laps and got same dragon + much more (all this is counted as main price, not only dragon).

The only thing I don`t understand is if there is indeed limitation for laps rewards only up to 20 laps? If so there will be no sense for any teams to do more laps..

@AndyM

I figured you did not play which is why I offered clarification. The Heroic Dragons are highly sought after as they are not easily obtained and they are the strongest

If you get to lap 5 and win first place, you will get the New Heroic Dragon as well as the dragons won by those who placed 2-8.

Everyone that reaches lap 12 gets the older Heroic Dragon being rewarded, no matter how you placed in the race.

If you reach lap 15, you will get both Heroic Dragons, but only the first place racer collects the dragons given to players that finish 2 through 8.

There are additional rewards given in other laps...for this race every lap, in prior races every other lap. Rewards are generally food, gold, gems and they recently added card packs and orbs that give you chances at hard to obtain or exclusive dragons. The rewards offered increase in value with each lap you complete. Which is the incentive for going beyond lap 15. At lap 20, you may get lucky and get a Pretty decent load of dragons.

@keki14 you are missing my point Compared to previous normal race, the epics breeding has increased SIGNIFICANTLY and the number of epics that need to breed has gone up. What does that mean? More gems, and more money, and that's if you want to win. Ok, some of you may say well you can choose not to do it, but let's be honest, you need to get to lap 14 at least to win. and if you are in a tough group, you need to do many laps and with epic breeding in almost every lap, how much do you need to spend? $P just cant be praised. I reallly thought this game is going in the right direction, sadly it is not and it looks like it will never be. I understand $p needs to earn money, but isn't people buying gems, nemesis, and previous races already gave you guys enough money? Why do you want to undo the great things you have done lately? @Fox

@LilCricketPa Thank you, that is good overview

I can't remember what the rules are now. Do people get the race monster after they join the team halfway thru the race?

@Skeller They shouldn't according to current race help pages

@TCML-Lead I agree with you I just mentioned that if the reward would be guaranteed if you reach a certain lap, then I wouldn't mind the epic nodes (of course they are super bad in this race).

And the answer is greed. That's why.

@Skeller After the halfway point, they can't get Race Team Rewards. Not sure if they get individual Race Rewards! I really wish they would put a constant blurb out!I am so sick of the LIARS in Global Chat saying to "Join to help us stay in 1st place! 160 GEMS required to help skip QUESTS!" Sorry but that is plain DISHONEST!

My team is sitting this one out as we got pitted agains 3 obvious groups of hackers. Not going to waste our gems or time on it.

@Mark-Goode said in Celtic Team Race (featuring Balor):

My team is sitting this one out as we got pitted agains 3 obvious groups of hackers. Not going to waste our gems or time on it.

What do you mean by this?

@Clackers So you want something handed to you for free? it is bad enough that they allow teams to keep swapping out to baby teams, but at least they did something that made it more fair to others. Handing out 130 monsters, and a second monster and making tasks easy should not be what a race is about.

It should be about a team working together. All races ever do is create monsters out of the members cause they turn into all about"ME" They only care if they can get that new monsters and screw everyone else. They tear teams apart.

So now we got people complaining it is harder to get and that the tasks are to hard. Boo hoo

@Marianne-van-Es

Our leader said the 3 top teams used gem hacks. They had over 10 laps each before the first day was even done. It's a known problem with some teams unfortunately.

Personally I think the team wars are tedious and suck the fun out of the game anyway. When put agains reasonable opponents my team does fairly well, but boy does it feel like a second job sometimes just trying to keep up.

@Mark-Goode you shouldnt belive anything your leader says, 10-20 laps in first day isnt very hard if team working together and knows what they are doing. BUt i guess my team are gem hackerz , lol

@AndyM said in Celtic Team Race (featuring Balor):

There is not much sense of giving same reward to anyone reached 14th lap. In this case who in clear mind would actually compete, go much further and by this make money for SP? Guess this will never happen.

And if we look into direction DC races are heading, there is also main price only for 1st place and bunch of smaller for all others, same as in ML now counting you reached 4+ laps.

we are not talking about that when you reach a defined lap you get the same as 1st. But you should have the chance to get the race monster and the level of the race monster should reflect the laps you reached. The difference in the reward could be elementium, relicts and so on.
And I believe, that much mir moneyhGEMs are spend when everybody knows this, because my team will spend GEMs when they know that they will get a 3 ranked monster, but when we see that a crazy team is running 100 laps, we will stop after lap 4. at the end SP will make much more money from 20teams trying to pass 14 laps than from one running 30 laps.

@Suzznee said in Celtic Team Race (featuring Balor):

So now we got people complaining it is harder to get and that the tasks are to hard. Boo hoo

to reach lap 14 and to pay out for every E challenge will cost round about 4000Gems. So this is extremely cheap for a 3 star L Monster. All the other things you have to do is easy for a top or mid range team.

But a low level team has never a chance to pass 4 laps. I don‘t think they should pass 14 laps, but to have no chance to qualify is extremely frustrating and crashing teams. My son has a low level team with a lot of teammates (level 17-35) and a good war coins quote of 100-170 coins, but now the better players (level 40-70) left, because team is not able to bread 14 E in lap 2.
when we say rave gets harder, we should also think about weaker teams and player not only top 500 teams.

@Mark-Goode if there is any reason to suspect 3 teams in one race competition that are using hacks, any hacks then please report this with ss's to support. Without telling names here of the teams why does your teamleader think these team's use gem hacks do they have an unusual amount of laps done? If so how many?

Yes... 10+ laps during first day is a big hack...

What I don't like in this race is that during first 4 laps there are epic tasks effectively cutting out a lot of young teams from qualifying to get rewards.

It is sad to see a lot of teams in my group stack on lap 2 and i guess most of them will remain there.

@Claudius-DC-Sailer As soon as 1st place gets much better rewards from others it is fine with me, otherwise why would we bother with 1st place at all.

@AndyM said in Celtic Team Race (featuring Balor):

Yes... 10+ laps during first day is a big hack...

What I don't like in this race is that during first 4 laps there are epic tasks effectively cutting out a lot of young teams from qualifying to get rewards.

It is sad to see a lot of teams in my group stack on lap 2 and i guess most of them will remain there.

we did 14 ones during first day I can assure you we didnt hack

I think the races are great in every area except one. Its the one person 10 epics node. Thats kinda not barely possible without skiping during full race time, it should be be 2-3 max.

The all togehter could be 30 epics instead and much easier /make more sense.

Races should be all about teamwork and thats the only node thats totally out of place.

The rest is all about how good you and your team are in preparation, activity and communication.

@Marianne-van-Es That was just a sarcasm from my side.. my team also does 10+ laps so nothing unusual here.

@joohnzy said in Celtic Team Race (featuring Balor):

I think the races are great in every area except one. Its the one person 10 epics node. Thats kinda not barely possible without skiping during full race time, it should be be 2-3 max.

6 E in 3 Days is no problem with boost on and the right combination and some luck. My son did in this race. Everybody should know, that there are a lot of jobs you can really only pass with GEMS. This is the deal!

But I am with you. It should be possible for all teams to qualify.