I am level 133. Planted 14 black lotus with 100% guardian. Got 287(!!!!) coins and I was like WHAT??? I am not even close to get DM at the end, and probably not for montauk creature too!!! On the other hand, I saw players with level 80 ish already finished 2 rounds of this event and here I am staring at the epic. Can someone from SP explain to me how is this event fair and where is fairness in this game? not gonna lie, I was excited to get a 2 stars DM, but now all I got is the worst even I have seen in a while.

It is difficult if you are higher level. I know I got the one last time but it was with every bit of gold I had, my feeding guardian going and checking in every hour to collect. Doing pvp and grabbing Monsterwood coins. But they have made it very easy for lower level players and very difficult for high level players to earn one in the 72 hour challenge. Need to do the breedings as well that is where you will get decent coin.

As of this moment its "impossible" to get all from 100 and up with some help from Discord players we made this it isnt complete yet but it paints a clear picture:

as a high level player I didnt need to get all 3 monsters, its not even the gold that I need to farm but i dont have the time to collect every hour for 48 hours
Im sorry to say this but I can understand people who make macro's to breed 30 sec breeds and farm automatic every hour. but this now for sure an event I wont do anymore to spend 2 billion gold for a 1 star epic no thank you

I'm typically not one of the naysayers, but I completely agree. This event has been bad for high-level players for a long time now. It REALLY needs to be modified or stop being used in my opinion.

The drop rate is like the previous event which is totally broken

we gave our feedback on last 72 one - kihaku -and i thought sp will change this event but again i was naive . wonder where all our feedback go ..for example
@Claudius-DC-Sailer said in 72 H challenge < Inknatius-Firael-Kihaka >:

I am level 130 and have 6.000 coins
my son 1 ist level 94 and has 10.000 coins
my son 2 is level 74 and has 49.000 coins

I normally play for them so I know they did until now same, possibly less than I did, in ML since Event started.

Does SP really thinks this is a fair and balanced Event?

It is always the same with 72h event. It drives me extremely angry to work hard and at the end get nothing or much less than low level players.

it's the second 72H i will skip i'm very unhappy about it ...can't find the reasoning behind the fact that high lvl players get so few coins from the most expensive food+ maxed guardian activated , don't the low lvl players get to work hard just as we did when we started playing this game 4- 5 years ago ?! there were no ranked monsters handed to us back then

Lvl 98 player here, i got a total of 20 coins from full farms of black lotus with food guardian, then did the cheapest grow after that to make sure the coins werent backlogged and got 0 coins from that. I totally agree that the drop rate is totally off..... well more than usual....

@Nathan-Woods
Strange . looks like a bug or extremely stuck coins there . per marianne chart above you should get around 1096 !!

@Alex-Pisi
Personally i am trying to see how far i will reach Without growing any food
only breed and normal gold collect

@Haka-Taka now im getting 318 coins a full harvest.... just gonna give up and save my gold and dont need the extra experience for nothing.

Being broken is an understatement

Lvl 136 with guardian at Max after 9 rounds of 5m food and collectibg gold I have 5,136 coins with what mw gave me

Lvl 75 with no guardian after 7 rounds of the 5m food (ran out of gold) and colleting gold I have 35,111 coins

There should absolutely not be any way possible that we get 1/7 of what we can get below lvl 80

I think it's been almost a year since I got a legendary out of a 72 hour challenge. There have been some events previously that were even worse - you received 49 coins for a full crop of boosted Black Lotus! I can understand if they want to make it easier for lower level players, but please @Fox make it so that we high level players get at least something!!!

I believe thyra was the last one I was able to get and that was quite a long time ago.

I am a level 73 player and trust and believe I am on alot to collect hatch etc. I have never been able to complete any of these challenges so I must be missing something either that or I collect to often. I usually collect every hr. If I was a higher level I would be frustrated as well. does anyone know if there will be a discount in the challenge this time? if anyone could give me help suggestions if would help tremendously. Thanks

@Jaysonthewarrior are you growing the 5 million food on 14 farms?

@Grim-Asylum food guardian active is also a help

@Nathan-Woods correct Nathan but even without it they should be getting over 4,500 coins an hour with it they will get over 9k coins an hour at there lvl

Exactly like the kihaku 72 hr, no changes, no nothing. Most broken event in history of games,(my own experince) Good job Socialpoint.
Fair game isnt your thing perhaps..

@Grim-Asylum No I wasn't thank you

@Nathan-Woods Thank you

@Grim-Asylum thank you

This is the only game I know that one gets punished for being a higher level player. Most games the higher ranked you are the better the prizes not with ML .. The higher you are the less chance of getting the better monster. Look at how broken things are with this game. Everything is backa**wards.

@Marianne-van-Es said in Dungeon master 72 hour challenge- WORST I have seen for high level players:

Im sorry to say this but I can understand people who make macro's to breed 30 sec breeds and farm automatic every hour. but this now for sure an event I wont do anymore to spend 2 billion gold for a 1 star epic no thank you

How to write this macros?

Also To farm each 24 could be harmful for children . System need to be changed to not getting benefit from 24h presense in the game.

@Dewei I dont know, and I don't want to know when a game needs to have an automated system build to do good in an event for me its time to stop doing that event seriously. My comment was I understand why people do this

Who knows, please share

@Dewei Google can help here, there seems to be quite a few generic solutions if you wish.

I am usually not the one to defend SP. Nevertheless, I keep reading complaints about the fact that the game favours so much the high-level, long-time players. So why not take this as an attempt to balance a bit the game? I mean, for a new player it is impossible to get anything out of the breeding events, nemesis dungeons, etc. So I find it quite fair that once every three months they get an event or two where they can do better then the top players. It is not the best implementation ever, I give you that, but the concept of the big getting bigger and the small getting crushed is not fair either....

@woland my problem isnt with the part that the 72h favours mid level players my problem is that at lvl 110 and above with a normal life you maybe gather the coins for the epic

Lvl 94 here and I got 1690 coins with 100% guardian and 14 farms. I don't want to know what will happen if I reach lvl 100 ...
I'm in maybe the worst bracket, because I still only get a rank 1 legendary, but need to collect almost 6 times more (or even more) than for example lvl 70-80 players (who still get a rank 1 monster).
A guy with 800 million gold at lvl 80 already completed three rounds ...

@keki14 it will drop to 1018 already at lvl 95 with 13 farms , youre soon in he worst bracket like myself

If everybody gets the top prize, there is no real favouring of low/mid-level players, right? This is in fact my point: they cannot favour the low level players while at the same time give the same prize to the high-level players. And, in all honesty, I don't think a 130-level player will suffer if a 70-level players gets a 1-star Dungeon Master. SP need to keep the door open to new players and this event goes a tiny bit in that direction, making the new players happy that -- for once -- they managed something the old dinosaurs cannot do.

Then again, like I said, it is not the best implementation ever, and I can understand the frustration. In my opinion, they should consider the MP rather than the player level when establishing the rewards. Player level does not really reflect how powerful a players is, but in fact how much he/she played the Adventure Map.

Well. I certainly don't disagree that in comparison with lower level players, high level players don't get a great event here.

But I do think we still get a reasonable deal. A rank 2 Dungeon Master is equivalent to buying, hatching, feeding and extracting 3 monsters to rank a 4th. 4 Dungeon Masters on discount at 250 costs 1000 gems. Ranking to Rank 2 costs a bunch of food, time, and slots.

Earning coins mainly from breeding - and there is a breed event on - costs around 800 - 900 gems, I think, with guardian active to get a 2 star DM. A modest saving, and a trade off of the ranking process inconvenience and time for the inconvenience and time of earning coins. And the possibility of perhaps doing well in the breeding event in parallel.

I personally think if SP are going to keep the drop rate of coins as they are currently then the event needs to change and become a true game of chance where every flip of the card is a genuine chance to win the monster, same odds on every card flip.

@woland ehm, why should low/mid-level players be favoured? I thought a game should be about those who plays most and work hardest gets the benefits ? If not spending money ofc

This event is like "you there! you are selected, welcome" or "Oh you..to old grandpa"

I dont really see any places in the game were big highlevel players are favoured. Some areas they can do better, yes. They probably worked and played a long time to get there and also therefor have the opportunity.
So should anyone who wants to get there. Just my opinion in this.

@C0ntr1v3d do you think you get enough coins to get the dugeon master? please tell me your secret

At this point I count these mini events as resource claims only. I am over the outrage over how these are handled for high leveled players. I am glad that they are using them for old monsters, which I have, so if I get something great. If not, I am no longer going to go into an uproar over. Hey this gives me the excuse to activate my food guardian so that I can replenish my food...

I know some my think my attitude is blase but honestly ML has stopped being a primary game for me for a while. I still play it to occupy my time between wait times for my primary games, but I have just had enough and I am no longer as invested as I used to be. I am more a casual monster master at this point. If not for all the time and money I have invested in it I probably would have dropped it by now.

@joohnzy Because it is very difficult to attract and to keep new players once they realize that the difference between them and the high level players is huge and it keeps growing with each event. For the most part, the bigger you are, the more you will grow in this game. This is not good for any game, there has to be a healthy amount of new players that get a chance to challenge the existing base.

@Marianne-van-Es said in Dungeon master 72 hour challenge- WORST I have seen for high level players:

@C0ntr1v3d do you think you get enough coins to get the dugeon master? please tell me your secret

I will let you know once/if I have him... I am really just trying to breed Metalisha and the coins are a side effect...

LMAO!!! New players challenging the existing base!! That is the absolute worst rationalization I have ever seen!!! The power gap between a level 130 Nemisis (or full stable of them in fact) and a level 100, 105 or even 110 Legend is staggering. There is such a gap in the player base and any "new" players that plan to compete at an "elite" (not my word!) level will have to spend big money. So giving a level 80 player a 1 star (or even 3 1 star) DM's will somehow bridge this gap?!? This event is broken plain and simple, there are 4 ways to get coins, PvP, Breeding, Collecting food, and Collecting Gold. So SP please explain how many more habitats a level 130 player has over a level 90, how many more farms does a level 130 have, how many extra PvP attacks do higher level players get, how many more breeding and hatching spots do you get for being higher level??? Yeah exactly, there is ZERO benifit to being a higher level but there is a HUGE penalty.

It is a sign of great frustration to say LMAO when you are not laughing at all. And if that is the worst rationalization you've ever seen, you know nothing about politics Instead of LMAOing, try chilling and smiling. It's better.
That aside, I am saying that new players should challenge the existing base in a competitive game, not that they actually do it in ML. The 72h-challenge gives the lower level players some illusion that they stand a better chance, enough to continue playing. I didn't say it fixes the problem.
At any case, it is good you tell us how to obtain coins right in the middle of your argument. It brings much needed clarity.

I dont think its bad that high level players cant make the most of these challenges like new players do. I will try to list some reasons down below:

1. Most older/high level players already have a bunchful of monsters at rank 5 level 130, of each book and element
2. Old players used to buy team war monsters with 800 war coins, now they cost 2500 for generals and less for rest
3. High level players have ranked monsters thus are given a clear advantage in nemesis dungeons because newer players can only obtain about 10 cells of each nemesis
4. High level players have a very good roster of monsters and also a high monster power thus having it easy to land into a good team
   last but not least, most older players have enough monsters to gain all vips from breeding event while new players bother to get at least one of those monsters(luck is assumed to be same for both categories)
   so ultimately, the game balances itself with these 72h challenges and I dont think we should complain that much

I actually WAS laughing at how silly that concept is. I'm guessing your pretty new to the game, eapecially since you refer to higher level players as "dinosaurs". So your belief is that by giving newer players an easier time with the event it will make them feel like they stand a chance against higher level players. Well I gotta be the one to say.. welcome to the game, we hope you enjoy it, we love when new players who are just starting out get involved in the community! One day you will learn what people are actually talking about but till then have a great time and happy gaming.

ehm Lets stay on topic please .

a friend saying that food is giving higher amount of coins now .. Any one can confirm or deny ??

@Haka-Taka just harvested 2.8 million food = 288 coins, replanted and sped up 287 coins. No change.

Actually...

1. Most older/high level players already have a bunchful of monsters at rank 5 level 130, of each book and element

Not really, most PAYING players may have 130's but paying and level have little to do with each other. I'm level 125 and have 1 level 130 from the race reward.

2. Old players used to buy team war monsters with 800 war coins, now they cost 2500 for generals and less for rest

I always love this one, when Generals were 800 coins the lab wasn't around MOST people didn't buy multiple copies of each general for cheap because there was no reason to!

3. High level players have ranked monsters thus are given a clear advantage in nemesis dungeons because newer players can only obtain about 10 cells of each nemesis

Again you're confusing level with PtP players. Pay to play players have paid for their advantahe and that is their right but that is not what makes a high level player.

4. High level players have a very good roster of monsters and also a high monster power thus having it easy to land into a good team

I'm not sure what you mean by this, there are very good teams at all levels that earn LOTS of war coins. I've been on teams ranked in the 10,000 ranges that make over 300 coins per war.

last but not least, most older players have enough monsters to gain all vips from breeding event while new players bother to get at least one of those monsters(luck is assumed to be same for both categories)

Yes one would expect the longer you play the more monsters you have but SP also makes almost all the breeding monsters available through breeding events or to be purchased with gems.

This is pretty much the only event that is stacked against players. Progressives are the same for everyone, Mazes are the same for everyone, Races have the same tasks for everyone, bur 72 hr events are broken for high level players. If I got the same coins and the same prizes as a level 90 I would be THRILLED, why, because I can only produce the exact same as a level 90 player.

@drewish

2. Old players used to buy team war monsters with 800 war coins, now they cost 2500 for generals and less for rest

I always love this one, when Generals were 800 coins the lab wasn't around MOST people didn't buy multiple copies of each general for cheap because there was no reason to!

Although the rest of your post makes sense, this is wrong. My Thetys, Darmith, and Holter are all rank 2, and I can absolutely guarantee that I never bought any of them for more than 800. Nor will I ever, so sadly they appear to be useless in the long haul.

@drewish I actually play the game since 2014(back when the game actually started) and I know the difference between being an old player and a new one, I also know that the game is not "balanced and fair for everyone" as they would like us to think. The "silly concept" that you are laughing at is actually pretty decent and there are a few points to back it up, so unless you have some stronger facts and decent points, please dont insult me or my "silly concept"!

SP are money grabbing 'you know what'. it's okay to make the game more difficult for higher levels but this is pure business because they assume high levels are spending money. it does not make the game equal in any way for low levels vs. high levels and even if they wanted to do that - how would that make sense? you work hard to get where you are , you should be awarded for that not discriminated against. I really wish people would stop to pay such a big money to them so they would have to improve the game for real players. they don't do anything for people...

@ArCLoRd said in Dungeon master 72 hour challenge- WORST I have seen for high level players:

@drewish I actually play the game since 2014(back when the game actually started) and I know the difference between being an old player and a new one, I also know that the game is not "balanced and fair for everyone" as they would like us to think. The "silly concept" that you are laughing at is actually pretty decent and there are a few points to back it up, so unless you have some stronger facts and decent points, please dont insult me or my "silly concept"!

My post about the "silly concept" was not directed at you ArCLoRd but at the "guest" who was saying that SP is doing this to make new players feel like they have a chance against higher level players. I've been around since 2014 as well and from 4 years of experience I will say this is SP messing up and not caring more than it is an effort to help ANYONE. In the last year+ very little SP has done has been to benifit players vs increase revenue. But this thread isn't about that, this is more a case of another SP "over sight" than an intentional effort. My whole point this whole time is the event is broken, how can you justifiably have higher requirements when there are no higher benifits?? I can grow MAX 2.8 million food per hour, a level 90 can grow max 2.8 million food per hour, I get 288 coins for that effort, they get 1000+. This CAN'T be explained.

@ArCLoRd well not really even if you play the game for years if you don't spend serious money you wouldn't have l130 monsters you need minimum 640 gems only to get l115 monster and it would take you years to buy so many cells at a minimum price which I believe is 1.4 gems /per cell so races are an option but that's for l115 monsters not 130 ... just googled that you need 1670 gems for l130 monster. every now and then you can buy 10 cells for price 14 gems (2x times per even then the price increases) so if there's 4 such events - ok let's say 6 such events in a year you can buy 12x times 10 cells at that price that's 120 cells per year (and I don't think there's 6x times a year such sale). so if you don't want to wait that long you need to buy monsters for higher price (lowest is like 275 gems or something per whole monsters). if you rank it up to 100 you can then extract that but you would need 17x monsters of the same kind to get one to level 130 that's 17x275 4675 cells for l130 monster
so I think you are very wrong. it doesn't matter for how long you have been playing this game. you can be higher rank but that doesn't mean you will have l130 monsters or l10 runes or gold/diamond relics not at all