So, VIP monsters are no longer a special group of mosters. They are now 9 ordinary monsters you can buy for 299 gems from a chest, or just try breeding them during a VIP breeding event. This type of event happened not only once, twice or thrice. Today the FOURTH VIP breeding event should start. And if course, it's not going to be the last. Okay, 99% of the players should be happy "Oh yeah free VIPs". But does anyone care about those who bought them with hard earned money? You all will just say they are no longer that good and blah blah blah but hey! When I look at my 130 VIPs I see some thousands of bucks thrown away. Last time these events happened I was really mad, but somehow I have calmed myself down. But now, it's just ridiculous. In the previous events the only way to get them was by breeding or spending $. But now, if you fail at breeding just spend 299 gems from the stock you have collected in one month and get a VIP for free! I'm here asking for a compensation, a few gems per each VIP BOUGHT and the amount should increase when the monster is ranked up. We all know how support says no and simply closes the ticket that's why I have posted this here.

Thanks for reading.

I like pretty much my Zyla, still very relevant

But yeah, you are right about VIPs. And its even worst about Nemesises given away for free (through 2 recent dungeons) to a more developed players, not even via breeding event.

I would personally purchase few next generation strong guys but looking at VIPs and Nemesis fate I wonder how long would next warmasters remain relevant (even though not released yet) and if its worth to invest or may be to wait half a year for a free copy..

@AndyM nemesis monsters ruined VIPs, and warmasters might ruin nemesis monsters.

Imo, nemesis dungeons should never come back again. And if they will, the restrictions MUST change.

@Warthak-The-Mountainsplitter
The first 2 vip breeding events were fair as you must have a vip to do them , so it was for cash players only help them ranking them

but i can feel you regarding the last 2 ones .but the 300 gem give you 40X2 cells so it is not confirmed a vip for 300 gems . you may need to spend 1500 before getting one . but still if it were me i would be really mad

@Haka-Taka there is a chance to get 2 cell packs of the same monster. Also, the chest helps those who have done VIP dungeons at crafting more. And yeah, the first 2 VIP breeding events were fair, but the last 4 (3 of them happened before each talos dungeon, and the one which starts today) aren't acceptable at all.

@Warthak-The-Mountainsplitter
Yes i think it is not fair for cash players esp they bought vip and nemesis under the impression that this is the only way to get them , but somehow i think also this is healthier to the game and re balance the power scale . but still !
at least you still have the upper hand with your ranked vips .. breeder usually will get 1 of each and this is it . but still !

@Haka-Taka rebalancing the power scale can be done by making good and easy to get monsters. Not giving away what others have paid to get

@Warthak-The-Mountainsplitter
It wasn't my decision . and yep maybe premier monster could play this role instead of vip ,
but we are already past this discussion point

Giving 4 shots at breeding VIPs and offering 80 VIP cells for gems wasn't enough. Now if you couldn't buy any chest or breed any VIP, get free cells!
@ML-Game-Team someone should think about giving compensations to those who bought VIPs thinking it's the only way to get them.

@Warthak-The-Mountainsplitter

Actually this event is totally useless . it is just prevent us from getting our regular gems

Monsterwood giving 1 cell of vip . bundle is 6 cells . and notice that we cant ask or donate for vip cells ..

The game moves on. It's needed. I bought some vips and nemesis. I don't mind this. I like it.

@ibobs72 can you explain why it's needed?

@Haka-Taka it's funny how sp stopped VIP cell donation when Nox's cells were mistakenly obtainable in pvp roulettes. But now, they are offering free cells.

Two years ago I bought a Samsung Galaxy s7 edge. When I bought it, it was state of the art, and I got great use out of it. Two years on, and it is still an effective device but its resale value is low and it has been greatly superseded technologically by newer devices. Although I could certainly still use it, I chose to buy the new s9 Edge instead, knowing that it gives me a current high end device that will also be superseded and, ultimately, become obsolete.

So far, I got a Hiroim the Tenacious from breeding, and I'm satisfied. But I do agree, it is unfair to those who used $ to buy them.

@C0ntr1v3d that's a good analogy on how those VIPs are being phased out. But what @Warthak-The-Mountainsplitter trying to question is why SP is doing the breeding event in it's current form. Shall we care too much if Samsung is making a big promotion event on Galaxy S7 but requires lot of effort?

It's interesting to see two different reactions to this event. Those feel unfair because they paid to have 2 years ago should read Galaxy S7 story. Those who feel being cheated, should always keep this in mind that SP has been trying (and trying really hard) to turn this game into gambling business. This event is one good example.

To @Warthak-The-Mountainsplitter : Zyla being one of "9 ordinary monsters" seriously?

@SkeelMaster said in VIP monsters:

To @Warthak-The-Mountainsplitter : Zyla being one of "9 ordinary monsters" seriously?

Completely agreed, Zyla still has one of the best attacking potential (maybe the best) in the game and on top of that she has the Bulwark trait. If you can get her a Jakugan Sword and a Charging Banner ... Oh boy ...

@C0ntr1v3d said in VIP monsters:

Two years ago I bought a Samsung Galaxy s7 edge. When I bought it, it was state of the art, and I got great use out of it. Two years on, and it is still an effective device but its resale value is low and it has been greatly superseded technologically by newer devices. Although I could certainly still use it, I chose to buy the new s9 Edge instead, knowing that it gives me a current high end device that will also be superseded and, ultimately, become obsolete.

I think this can apply for players who bought vip ,ranked them and expected that they will be top monsters for ever and now complain that nemesis and - coming warmaster - are taking on them , so No it is logical and normal that even cash monsters that are top now will become obsolete
But the OP talking about a monster handed free later after they paid for it .. so imagin that after you bought s9 the company decided to give it free for every one ask for it . how you will feel about it . pretty sure if you are in the 14 day return period you will return your unit and get one for free , if you are on the 15 day sure you will be made at samsung . think this is our case here .
just saying

I managed to buy zyla up until some months ago the last time she was on sale, and I've been enjoying her a lot, doesn't makes me mad that other people can get her on a breeding event, mostly cause I also have the chance to get more copies of her, 3 so far, used some gems to speed up, not necessarily f2p gems, but some.

People who bought the VIPs at the very beginning have been using them and enjoying them for a longer time than us who just recently got one, one can argue that if it is unfair that f2p players are getting them now is "unfair" then one can also argue that being able to get them with real money was unfair at the moment. Gacha games for you, that's how they work.

If you are really top tier player, having 6 130s nemesis on your pvp defense and attack with fully leveled up diamond relics I don't think it hurts you that much that a small percentage of people can get an osur a hydrok and a zyla now and then, it will take ages to catch up with a player like that.

@Haka-Taka said in VIP monsters:

@C0ntr1v3d said in VIP monsters:

Two years ago I bought a Samsung Galaxy s7 edge. When I bought it, it was state of the art, and I got great use out of it. Two years on, and it is still an effective device but its resale value is low and it has been greatly superseded technologically by newer devices. Although I could certainly still use it, I chose to buy the new s9 Edge instead, knowing that it gives me a current high end device that will also be superseded and, ultimately, become obsolete.

I think this can apply for players who bought vip ,ranked them and expected that they will be top monsters for ever and now complain that nemesis and - coming warmaster - are taking on them , so No it is logical and normal that even cash monsters that are top now will become obsolete
But the OP talking about a monster handed free later after they paid for it .. so imagin that after you bought s9 the company decided to give it free for every one ask for it . how you will feel about it . pretty sure if you are in the 14 day return period you will return your unit and get one for free , if you are on the 15 day sure you will be made at samsung . think this is our case here .
just saying

No Haka. More like after I bought the s9, a telco offers a free 2 year old s7 for free on a 24 month contract. I don't begrudge those users their free s7. It is a good phone, and I enjoyed it for 2 years. I hope they enjoy it.

@SkeelMaster what's so special about zyla now? Extra turns are easily countered using faraday, it's true that she can kill him with her direct slaughter or clamant havoc, but still, he prevented her from using her extra turn skills.
If you are going to say "avoid faraday and hit" then she is going to be on the same boat as voltaik, she can have a banner and a sword which means she shouldn't always have a stamina rune, while voltaik can have a mask which can increase his strength/heal him/take away the stamina of who hits him.

@C0ntr1v3d S7's price and value is decreasing, that's right but samsung isn't selling it now for another currency that doesn't require a lot of effort to earn.

@Francisco-Franceschi go ahead and pay 500$+ on each nemesis to rank 5, then just a few months later SP gives ALL OF THEM for free. Let us know how you are going to feel about it.

And for the example you gave about 6 ranked nemesis monsters are not going to be affected by the VIPs other players own, I'm here talking about the wasted money on them, not how dangerous they are when I face them. I can't find a reason for this. If SP wants to balance battles, then they are able to make new good monsters and if they want to, they can make them easy to obtain. If the trait is their main reason, then they can release more monsters with that trait. Just leave $ monsters alone.
I felt like SP wants everyone to have at least one VIP monster, they are being generous with all players except those who spend on the game. I'm not asking for a miracle, I don't want SP to delete all VIPs from all f2p accounts. I want a small compenastion on every VIP I have purchased. Is that TOO MUCH?

I have expected to get a reply from SP here, but it feels like forums isn't far different from support. Here you can keep posting without getting a reply, and there they write anything and close the ticket...

@Warthak-The-Mountainsplitter well, if I had the means to spend that kind of money on a mobile gacha game (wouldn't that be nice) I guess I would be even less worried that a small percentage of players could get some VIPs now and then, would probably been kicking butt on L1 for some months by now and enjoying the rewards and the general experience of being on the big big leagues, probably been also getting tons of diamond relics and tons of other monsters, so there you go, hypothetically speaking I think I would care even less.

@Warthak-The-Mountainsplitter I tried Zyla and Voltaik both with simlar runes and Zyla was always far better. Also I don't like fighting against Faraday, but other than stealing extra-turns, he's not that of a super threat. I won many times against Faraday with Zyla in my team.