According to taringa, the different version of gortak has these traits.. gortak 1- immune to freeze, possession, stun and give immunity of stun to ally team. gortak 2- immune to all CONTROL status effect!!! ok some might say talos or ingenica can counter them by trait disable but then someone said on facebook that the metal version is immune to trait disable too???? (it is just rumor, so I could be wrong).. So now, we are looking at the most OP (and by far) monster in the game.. well what's next SP? Is there any more balance in this game? Sorry for tagging you here @carlos, but you seriously need to tell your boss to reconsider this, because SP is pressing the self destruction button!!

WM is definitely one of the best monsters. look at his moveset on taringa. you'll see what I mean.

It is too early to judge any thing now . and"" Valentin Adrian"" was joking when he mentioned that metal version is immune to trait disable and cool down and put a laughing icon at the end

yep from leaks it is really over powered but maybe it will be changed or balanced before release so nothing official we can discuss here

Continue the tradition pay to win!

@thewire technically you can't buy them, but you need Heroic Orbs, which you can buy ... so yes, unfortunately.
All I want is a fair chance at obtaining 80 cells, nothing else.

I just read the description of the dungeons and I am excited - I just hope that we have enough time to give them a good go!!! In particular since there are 6 of them....

@Carlos, I've claimed heroic orbs yesterday and today from the daily goals and both times the orbs have disappeared from my inventory after reloading the game.

@Stvrox I can't find them anywhere either!

I've reported it they should turn up again as the Dungeons starts, If not I will ask again ;)

what is the orb does?

@thewire It should give you excess to War Masters Dungeon

Warmasters are OP and at least as good as the Nemesis series. They have to (or else we just have a status quo in team rankings and in PvP "forever"!).
But the new thing is: they are not for sale - they must be earned in the new dungeons. That can actually be good for the game, but it will not be easy (as I understand it):

1. To gain acces to the (6 floors!) dungeons, you use the new Heroic Orbs. Orbs can be earned (PvP etc) or bought (that might be the pay to win aspect). Players with good Nemesis monsters (and high ranking in PvP) have positioned themselves well, but how well is not possible to say until we know more.
2. Dungeon battles are tough. The conditions change in new ways and there are monster requirements like the nemesis dungeons.
3. Besides that it will be time-consuming (my guess), but also interesting/challenging (my hope) and not too grinding (my fear)

Personally I hope the best. Dungeons has progressed far I think, whereas the rest of the game is stuck in the gambling machine mode (where I cannot participate). It is (as all gambling) devilish, but I guess many are tempted to take their chances.

I remember what contrived wrote some time ago: expressing the hope the game would find it way back to fewer but more challenging events that thrill players by guessing and anticipating whats next (sorry for the mild exaggeration, but you get the point, I am sure).

Could this be such an event? I hope so, but let us wait and see.

On another positive note: Monsterwood seems to be working!

Looks like about 1500 gems worth of heroic orbs to get the cells for an unranked Warmaster. €50 for a free monster.

Can someone confirm how many orbs needed to get the 1st 100 cells? I suspect cost per node goes up... ?

They're not rank able with Elementium, only cells. You'll still see them before tomorrow

@ibobs72 2nd floor is 60 heroic cells per node

Good dungeons :)

How do we even get orbs? I got a few when I logged in but PvP does not provide any, it's not a daily reward either ( maybe because i claimed it in the monring), not in dungeons...So I've done 4 nodes I think and then what?

Another question: do we have to repay for a node if we lose the battle? I don't think I'll be able to do many anyway but I'd love to know this.

Thanks

Orbs are part of PVP season rewards.. I will get 300 in 2 weeks, enough to unlock only 7 out of 20 nodes in first dungeon. Pathetic :)

I heard the cost per node increases in each floor, by 20. So the total cost (# or Orbs) is 10,800!

Based on the promotion (special offer) price, 2500 Orbs (plus some others) in $50, so this level 130 Gortak will cost $200! (without counting the effort of fighting through 120 nodes in dungeons)

@SkeelMaster and it's only the first Warmaster......

You can get 5 orbs (😅) each day by winning 3 Multiplayer fights, which is roughly 150 per month. SP said there'll be some for rewards in timed events and other things, but I don't see any, yet.
And of course you can just buy them for gems (at least not real money), but the price goes up every time you buy one (although the amount of orbs goes up too). The first is 50 orbs for 40 gems, the second is 60 orbs for 55 gems. I don't know about the rest, because I stopped there. The pricing resets every 24 hours, so after one day the first one is 50 orbs for 40 gems again.

Getting 100 cells cost 2000 orbs, so do the math ...

Edit: on the 7th node I got a Roulette spin with Elementium and Earth cells.

I really don't like that it requires rank X monsters to fight btw, the nodes seem difficult enough, why not let us give it a try with lower ranked monsters?

@AndyM said in Warmaster Gortak discussion- the game is becoming more and more imbalance!!!!!!!:

Orbs are part of PVP season rewards.. I will get 300 in 2 weeks, enough to unlock only 7 out of 20 nodes in first dungeon. Pathetic :)

I also hope there are more ways to earn orbs but dont forget they will be op monsters so if you want them early you have to pay for them thats how it works in all of mobile games, If the dungeons are returning you can get the monsters for free eventually and you pay for getting them early its more honest to players that will buy them because yes you can get them for free but not easy

@Marianne-van-Es Yes sure, I dont have any problem with that at all.

@Marianne-van-Es yeah, you can get him (only Gortak, there'll be 8 more) for free ... after around 20-22 months (if you do the daily quest every day and always finish in at least L4), and I didn't count the requirements (ranked monsters)

4 orbs per retry

Judging by the facts, I think it is safe to say I will have my Warmaster Gortak by the end of 2019!

@ArCLoRd and by then they will be so out of date they will be irrelevant 🤔

@SkeelMaster its says u can only buy the offer one time. So im guessing the cost will be much larger with then having to purchase the orbs with gems, so hence more gem packs bought.

@SkeelMaster said in Warmaster Gortak discussion- the game is becoming more and more imbalance!!!!!!!:

I heard the cost per node increases in each floor, by 20. So the total cost (# or Orbs) is 10,800!

Based on the promotion (special offer) price, 2500 Orbs (plus some others) in $50, so this level 130 Gortak will cost $200! (without counting the effort of fighting through 120 nodes in dungeons)

Even no. of nodes also increases in each floor? Based on info in Think Tank, the total Orbs required is 19300!

@TCML-Lead I can't even get the warmasters because apparrently u need to be level 40 but game Im level 45 do I not count?

Guys did you get roulette spins from the first node? I see people got it, but I did not, only from the 7th node.

welp, i'm just here hatching my Ouros after miserably failing the FIRST NODE with a lvl 100 Balor and a lvl 105 Tesaday. Hopefully Ouros willl help me....

I caved in and got the orb offer. Just finished the second Dungeon now with 115 Tesaday, 110 Burotgor and 105 Warthak Mountain Splitter. Repeated a few nodes but got most on the second attempt. Had to swap out Burotgor for Slayentaur or Mudflow a couple of times due to them being my ranked earth monsters who carried essence relics. Big plus was getting over 120 earth cells and 30 Elementium from the roulette spins. And now, that's me done with p2p for a very long time.

@Stvrox same here, I got him, I used 115 Baba Yaga (she helps a lot), 110 Tesaday and 105 Burotgor. I hope I can get enough orbs for the third dungeon the next time it comes up (I have around 500 right now).
Also before the dungeons I had 13 earth cells, now I have 181 (but I didn't got any cells from the first six nodes in the first dungeon).

Even after you get lvl 100 monster, his best skills are not there. You need to rank them to get his best skills. Dont waste your money!

watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK19KH-X0NM&t=18s

@thewire Can't do the trick to force Group 4 skills anymore? Or is it just for Gortak?

Update - confirmed, the trick that worked for the original Nemesis's does not work for Gortak... meh.

@MarshallTheBeef it was fixed a long time ago also for all nemesis

Edit just read you are back from a long break, welcome back

@ibobs72

Gems Orbs Gem cost per Orb
40 50 0.8
55 60 0.91
75 70 1.07
100 80 1.25
125 90 1.38
150 100 1.5
175 110 1.59
200 120 1.66
225 130 1.78
250 140 1.78
300 150 2

1700 1100

50$ 1100 Orbs

I finally ran into one of these in the PVP. Took it out pretty easily. I'm guessing the not being able to upgrade right away might make him scarce in PVP for a while.

@Mark-Goode I have him as a PVP defender and I won 7 defensive matches in a row. He's not bad even at 100 (at least his trait is not bad).