I see that the Barbael dungeon is open but no sign of Gortak. We were told that the dungeons would return every month so is Gortak supposed to be there and I'm not seeing him or what's the story?

I am not sure what info you are referring to or if you misunderstood but the heroic dungeons are rumored to return each month. However it is not always going to be the same monster each month. My guess is these will be like the VIP and Nemesis monsters, each element will get one which means most likely all the new monsters will be released in order before they start to repeat the cycle again.

So if there one Warmaster per element it'll be 9 months before I can begin to rank up Gortak ? That's a bit much tbh.

@Stvrox SP made a choice that WarMasters are hard to be obtainable for all because they are very strong. Thats why you cant rank them with elementium and you have to fight difficult dungeons for them. Previous strong monsters (first VIP then Nemesis) were 130 in no time with this method you wont have that problem

@Nynaevelan

Now, hang on. The splash screen says:

"Progress in Warmaster Dungeons is permanent, and they will REAPPEAR MONTHLY"(emphasis in original).

The coupling of progress in the dungeons being permanent, and the emphasised monthly return, can really only be understood to mean that the dungeons in which you have permanently progressed will return each month.

Any other interpretation is, frankly, well... contrived.

@Marianne-van-Es said in Returning Gortak?:

@Stvrox SP made a choice that WarMasters are hard to be obtainable for all because they are very strong. Thats why you cant rank them with elementium and you have to fight difficult dungeons for them. Previous strong monsters (first VIP then Nemesis) were 130 in no time with this method you wont have that problem

The reason VIPs and Nemesis were widely ranked in no time was due to the ability to rank them with Elementium coupled with Elementium frat events (which were a very unwise idea, as I said at the time). Warmasters are not exposed to that flaw.

@C0ntr1v3d yes thats also what I meant (about the elem)
About the returning part I interpreted different but that's maybe a language issue (Me not having English as my native language)
Maybe its time to ask some extra clarification

@C0ntr1v3d said in Returning Gortak?:

@Nynaevelan

Now, hang on. The splash screen says:

"Progress in Warmaster Dungeons is permanent, and they will REAPPEAR MONTHLY"(emphasis in original).

The coupling of progress in the dungeons being permanent, and the emphasised monthly return, can really only be understood to mean that the dungeons in which you have permanently progressed will return each month.

Any other interpretation is, frankly, well... contrived.

Maybe I am misinterpreting but it was my understanding that the dungeons would return monthly, but the featured monster would be different. However when each returned, you would be starting off at the point you left off on. So until SP clarifies what the truth is, I will keep my understanding as it is.

@Nynaevelan said in Returning Gortak?:

@C0ntr1v3d said in Returning Gortak?:

@Nynaevelan

Now, hang on. The splash screen says:

"Progress in Warmaster Dungeons is permanent, and they will REAPPEAR MONTHLY"(emphasis in original).

The coupling of progress in the dungeons being permanent, and the emphasised monthly return, can really only be understood to mean that the dungeons in which you have permanently progressed will return each month.

Any other interpretation is, frankly, well... contrived.

Maybe I am misinterpreting but it was my understanding that the dungeons would return monthly, but the featured monster would be different. However when each returned, you would be starting off at the point you left off on. So until SP clarifies what the truth is, I will keep my understanding as it is.

Whatever SP may intend, the statement in-game is unambiguous. There is no room for any other reading, with respect. Permanent progress reappear monthly.

You need to get clarification on this ASAP because my take on this is that each month we can continue where we left off. Otherwise its a 9 month wait to attempt to finish crafting or do a rank up. If that's the case then I wouldn't waste my time with any of the other Warmasters and that's not a good business plan for SP either.

@Stvrox Gortak dungeon will be a week from now, so after this one

@C0ntr1v3d said in Returning Gortak?:

@Nynaevelan said in Returning Gortak?:

@C0ntr1v3d said in Returning Gortak?:

@Nynaevelan

Now, hang on. The splash screen says:

"Progress in Warmaster Dungeons is permanent, and they will REAPPEAR MONTHLY"(emphasis in original).

The coupling of progress in the dungeons being permanent, and the emphasised monthly return, can really only be understood to mean that the dungeons in which you have permanently progressed will return each month.

Any other interpretation is, frankly, well... contrived.

Maybe I am misinterpreting but it was my understanding that the dungeons would return monthly, but the featured monster would be different. However when each returned, you would be starting off at the point you left off on. So until SP clarifies what the truth is, I will keep my understanding as it is.

Whatever SP may intend, the statement in-game is unambiguous. There is no room for any other reading, with respect. Permanent progress reappear monthly.

Do you have a screen shot of the splash screen, I am not finding it??

@Nynaevelan

@C0ntr1v3d Thanks I thought you were referring to something else. I still think that this is ambiguous, but again that is just me. And congrats on your progress.

@Marianne-van-Es thank you.

@Marianne-van-Es said in Returning Gortak?:

@Stvrox Gortak dungeon will be a week from now, so after this one

Hi - any new info on this?

@C0ntr1v3d I asked

Hi @C0ntr1v3d,

I am here with the answer! The Gortak dungeons are coming on Thursday 28/06/2018.

Thanks @Marianne-van-Es ^^

Thanks @Fox and @Marianne-van-Es

Oh yeah, I saw the announcement:

"The Gortak dungeons are coming on Thursday 28/06/2018 BUT

Sp changed when Group 4 skills are available - For nemesis and war masters -- you must reach rank 3 - level 115 - first before you can get those skills ..So the old way to rank to 105 then change skills for 20 gems is no more valid .. so plan how to use your resources --- Orbs or elemental cells -- wisely"

That change on the skill group 4 for nemesis thought, not in love with it, I get it for the warmasters but Nemesis....

I guess SP realized that a lot of people is getting them from the dungeons I guess, but then make Elementium a little easier to get in game without having to gamble on the chests, $8 for 10 elementium is bad.

It was meant to be one skill at 105. Another at 110... for warmasters. Can someone confirm this has changed please?

@ibobs72 warmasters and nemeses BOTH follow this pattern now. For Nemeses, the Group 4 skill unique to the type comes at rank 3, the other group 4 skills common to all types come at lvls 105 and 110, and in the order in which they're listed on the wiki. So, its a good idea to plan your elementium investment

@JohnML thanks. That's ok. I was planning on ranking war master and getting skills at 105 and 110 so if that hasn't changed then good.

@JohnML I just LOVE the lack of information SP gave us about this change ...

@keki14 There was just this tiny phrase in the latest Nemesis dungeons announcement on the FB Community page which made me wonder and check things... So I experimented with my Lucifire and Xiron the Ruby... and discovered these facts. Well, its a good thing elementium can still be used for Nemeses, but who knows, even that might be changed sometime in the near future...

They changed it about 4-5 weeks ago and said nothing. I couldn't access all of Warthaks group 4 when I ranked him after the previous round of dungeons

@Stvrox So far back? wow

Ya, I just checked my old posts as I commented on it at the time. It's over a month ago since I noticed

Yes, I remember, @Stvrox . The thread you commented on was actually started by one of my teammates regarding Samael the Plague Carrier's "Samael Warrior" skill

I found it (June 13), they say:

"Remember, dungeons for each Nemesis last only 1 day and Nemesis monster group 4 skills are following the same format as the Warmasters which means they are unlocked as they rank up."

So we should remember something they just implemented?

@keki14 "It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week."