Question if I have completed both rounds of the nemisis dungeons rank 1 and 2 both times they were on how many nemisis cells should I have I’m asking as I had 70 helltaser cells before I completed rank 2 last 1 on rank 2 gives u 10 but I went to 75 so does anyone know in total how much I should have after completing rank 1 and 2 both times the event was on
Thanx

@callumarachnoid if you mean you completed the normal and hard dungeons both times, then you should have 50 cells of each monster, so if you completed it a third time now, you should have 75 cells of each monster.
I think the last node in the hard dungeons showing 10 cells is a bug.

Edit: it's not a bug, it really gives 10 cells.

@callumarachnoid I have 75 too

Thanx that’s great it’s what I have just wanted to make sure and good to ask things without whineing just messing ekto

@callumarachnoid I hate it tho, I miss 5 of each

@Marianne-van-Es I just got so lucky in last dungeon used Vesuvius and got special gave me 7 extra so enough to craft

@callumarachnoid Nice congrats maybe i try it again later, now first my daily goals adventure map

Right now my only opinion to craft a Nemesis is the Llum dungeon, because I optained a rank 4 Tijen and Arch Knight (lvl 6-8 runes are good enough). Hope I'll get her this time.

@callumarachnoid thanks for the tip got my 7 cells too

So many lucky people with rank 5 Igursus

@keki14 Can I ask why the sad face? now it looks like you dont think the people that own a r5 Iggi deserves the 7 cells. Let me tell we worked hard to get it

@Marianne-van-Es no it's not a sad face (on second thought, maybe it looks like one), just you are lucky to have igursus at rank 5 (nothing about the 7 cells).

@Marianne-van-Es that’s great marianne

Well I really love Eggknock I was In the same situation as the Lucifire dungeon and I needed those extra 7 cells to get my first Warthak and Eggknock was the hero

@Marianne-van-Es I'm using him too.

@keki14 Lol could do 2 nodes in 3 with him still trying for more since I dont need the stamina for other things but think that was it :))

Wish me luck, I started the extreme dungeon with Ledovech, Eggknock and Mudflow, all with gold and diamond relics
If I can finish the first node, I'll have 82 Skullcrusher cells.

@keki14 Good Luck I did the first 2 nodes Balor instead of mudflow tho

@Marianne-van-Es not possible, either Hiroim uses Adverse Fortification and I'm screwed or Baron Traitor blinds me and nothing hits.
Also I'm not gonna spend like 60 gems to equip lvl X runes on them.

@keki14 I'm sorry I Know how frustrating this must be

@keki14 I was able to get through them all with baba yaga, ledo, growler. Balor is a great monster for these dungeons but don't have him ranked. Baba is good with the blind for Warthak and can carry 2 staffs so you can use one stam drain and one stam recharge.

@testcyp I know, Baba Yaga is a beast, but I have her only at rank 3, so no extreme dungeon with her. Also Balor is lvl 100 only, not ranked.

@keki14 said in Nemesis dungeons:

So many lucky people with rank 5 Igursus

Yes, that particular race has created a massive imbalance. Teams that won that race always have a huge unfair advantage over those that didn't win. We have faced many of those teams and on a few occasions we lost against weaker teams because we just couldn't handle 25 bases with Lvl 130 Igursuses

@David-ML said in Nemesis dungeons:

@keki14 said in Nemesis dungeons:

So many lucky people with rank 5 Igursus

Yes, that particular race has created a massive imbalance. Teams that won that race always have a huge unfair advantage over those that didn't win. We have faced many of those teams and on a few occasions we lost against weaker teams because we just couldn't handle 25 bases with Lvl 130 Igursuses

I suppose you are having lots of fun with double fire and epic wars then.

But yes, the Igursus race certainly had the most impact on wars.

@Ekto-Gamat @David-ML igursus biggest weakness is a combination of possesion and him using vesuvius. If you can possess him while he has vesuvius active just attack with aoe's and he will reflect them right back onto his own team, even better if he has a taiga trap on, that reflects back on himself too

@VargRanger said in Nemesis dungeons:

@Ekto-Gamat @David-ML igursus biggest weakness is a combination of possesion and him using vesuvius. If you can possess him while he has vesuvius active just attack with aoe's and he will reflect them right back onto his own team, even better if he has a taiga trap on, that reflects back on himself too

Yes, it's funny when that happens.

Igursus certainly can be handled. But not in every element, by everyone. He is slow, he is easy to possess, he has no denial. In current double flame and epic wars however, the only way to deny him is to kill him, or to start shooting with a full speed Nautilus or Ophiuchus.

So everyone in my team with Darmith's Bodyguard or Shallinar is doing fine, while others struggle. Having an answer to Igursus can mean the difference between 15 and 5 coins, thanks to that stupid race.

@Ekto-Gamat said in Nemesis dungeons:

Igursus certainly can be handled. But not in every element, by everyone. He is slow, he is easy to possess, he has no denial.

Yeah, he's slow ... at 100.
At 130 he's not (at least compared to the other, rank1-2 monsters, he has 3724 speed) and I see many 1 strength and 2 speed rune builds, which means he's fast and hits like a truck. So he's not that easy to get rid of. Also most of the time the enemy Igursus doesn't even have Vesuvius (at least in my experience).
If I encounter a 130 Igursus in pvp, I can easily destroy him, but not in Team Wars. My best fire monsters are rank 2 Ingenica and Greedy Dragon.
I wanted to get Barbael (he could easily handle Igursus), but I need 800 orbs more and a lvl X rune doesn't worth 50 dollars. So I'll stick with Gortak as a Warmaster (who is superior to Barbael, at least in my opinion).

Well i had a lot of fun with metalisha and ophiculus combo or Inheritor. Every time i see that 130 igursus on defence i mostly laugh. So easy to use as your own dmg. Love him :D.

SP could given away worse or better monsters as 130. I mostly think its because of the red thread in the game of making us slowly get the right weapons to beat extreme in every element in nemesis dungeons.

water(cryotan), fire(igursus), earth(burotgor) Dark(ixofex), Nature(fatid).

Atleast thats how i see it XD

The last invasion guy Igneus is pretty good(real fast) especially with Darmith BG. Only need 2 turns to wipe a team no matter how much health.
I think light and nature dungeon will be tough with not too many damage dealers, at least for me.

@VargRanger I think @Ekto-Gamat and @keki14 have pretty much summed it up nicely! That particular race has created a lasting significant imbalance across team wars

@David-ML yesterday we went up against a team and 20 out of 30 bases had a 130 Igursus (with good runes and relics)... I didn't even bother attacking and we lost like 300 to 80

Also I got the light and metal Llum. The magic one is tricky, because I need to complete the last 3 nodes and the metal Llum, Lucifire, Minotaurus node is very hard with Tijen, Arch Knight and Raane.

Edit: I did it and I got all three

The dungeons are a bit different this time around. Failed to finish Hydra for the first time, still couldn't do hard for Lucifire, Warthak was a lot harder but with a few rune changes got through it, nailed Sammy thanks to Nox and Llum wasn't too difficult either with Demise, Taiga and AK now I'm hoping for a better result when Xiron pops up as I'd love to craft myself a Ruby but magic isn't my strong element

@David-ML said in Nemesis dungeons:

The dungeons are a bit different this time around. Failed to finish Hydra for the first time, still couldn't do hard for Lucifire, Warthak was a lot harder but with a few rune changes got through it, nailed Sammy thanks to Nox and Llum wasn't too difficult either with Demise, Taiga and AK now I'm hoping for a better result when Xiron pops up as I'd love to craft myself a Ruby but magic isn't my strong element

I wouldn't be so sad about it.
Ruby is an unimaginative overpowered piece of junk. I only crafted her and her sisters for the book rewards. If you want to rank something overpowered go for Samael. At least using him requires some thinking.

And my guess is that Samael will still be awesome when Ruby is 'obsolete'. There already are many good counters for her:

Uria's Bodyguard (partly), Bo-Tai (partly), Nishant's Bodyguard, Sweeperion, Gortak, Gakora, et cetera. With the exception of Bo-Tai all released after Xiron, which makes me think SP is consciously shifting the meta away from super deniers like her and Kihaku.