So, the players that once shelled out at least $60 to get VIP monsters have now a reward. I thought "well, at least now I get something for the money I spent back then". Until I entered the dungeon and saw the rewards.

I mean, really, @Community-Managers. A couple of level 4 runes for completing 10 battles? Nothing but 5k gold in the roulette? A level 5 rune for completing 5 more battles? Considering that most VIP monsters are neither deniers nor have healing skills, going deep in this dungeon will be very hard. Considering that the last VIP dungeon was ages ago, is that how you reward your paying players?

@Frunobulax I agree with you on all points- the rewards certainly COULD BE BETTER for a "VIP Survival Dungeon". However, while none of the VIPs have a definite denying skill (with the possible exception of a lucky one from Scarr's Witchcraft Area), relics will play a VERY important role in healing or damage protection, if you don't have Osur, that is. For myself, a Healing Mask on Scarr and a Healing Amulet and Uriel's Essence on Valgar have gotten me farther than I hoped, and I still hope to cover a few more nodes.

@Frunobulax

True, the rune rewards are meh, but I think the rewards off-node are quite nice. IDK how many orbs there are, because I am only halfway through, but I got 300 so far, and some gems. For the node rewards, Elementium is always welcome, and 2 gold relic chests are worthwhile.

@C0ntr1v3d
Well, I didn't spend that much. I have 3 VIPs, 2 unranked, 1 at rank 1. Don't think I'll get far in that dungeon...

@Frunobulax i agree with you that yes indeed the rewards could be better. But in a way from my own perspective, from someone only been playing this game for 20 months... I just wanna scream every time i see these things as Survival nemesis or vip as they push me further from the top instead of closing in. As all vips were out when i started playing and i played to short to had enough get ruby or samael in those 3 nemesis cell dungeons. yes i have all other nemesis at 100 and faraday 115, have 1.5 k elimentium, i have 3 vips at lvl 100 from vip breeding, it could be worse for sure.. but i just wanna scream right now as last 3 months only pushed me as ftp further from my goal.

so in way i am happy it aint a diamond relic there lurking in the end..

@C0ntr1v3d yes indeed, the 300 orbs at the node before the level 6 rune chest was a welcome surprise, but I do feel that the rune rewards could've atleast been some more elementium or Silver relics atleast. Still, good luck to those who can make it till the end and get the 2 Gold relics !!!

The node with the first lvl 4 rune chest destroyed me, because Eggeater randomly possessed all of my monsters (so much for Bulwark) and Zyla killed them all in one-hit.

So I switched around runes and relics, even created another level X speed rune.
In the end I didn't make it to the first rune chest, because the shield of Valgar somehow didn't protect against Eggeaters special, even though it's supposed to block all non-light damage.

Now that was a FUN dungeon. It was a really good decision to get those VIP monsters, yes!

BTW, what's the use of all those items we're littered with if we can't use them anywhere?

@Frunobulax yeah, why can't we use the Battle Items? A revival item would be crucial here, because VIP monsters can't really heal themselves (other than Osur and Relics).

@keki14 said in VIP survival dungeon:

@Frunobulax yeah, why can't we use the Battle Items? A revival item would be crucial here, because VIP monsters can't really heal themselves (other than Osur and Relics).

My issue is more that there are no deniers. Valgars shield is nice, but does not protect against getting possessed/stunned/whatever. I forgot which monsters I was up against, but among them was Eggeater who has 3 AoE deny moves (2 possession 1 blind), he possessed for the first turn and hit his special on his second turn. Now, you'll have to be very lucky to come out of this without losing a monster. (Without Bulwark thread there is no chance at all.)

The more I think about is the angrier I get. This is just dangling a carrot in front of our noses. I figure less than 5% of VIP owners will be able to go deep into this dungeon. They shouldn't have used any strong denier for this dungeon.

@Frunobulax Since VIP breeding, VIP isnt that exclusive anymore

@Marianne-van-Es said in VIP survival dungeon:

@Frunobulax Since VIP breeding, VIP isnt that exclusive anymore

Well, I took a lengthy break in playing. But in the last 2 VIP breeding events I got a grand total of 0 VIPs, and I did try.

Also, tell me again why I should try to breed a monster like Osur?

@Frunobulax said in VIP survival dungeon:

But in the last 2 VIP breeding events I got a grand total of 0 VIPs, and I did try.

I feel your pain.

@Frunobulax I only bought Zyla, I have breed Kaih, 2 Nox and last Vip breeding a Valgar, I have spent not more then usual on VIP breeding and thats between 100 to 300 gems depending how much gems I have at that moment

I think we can all agree that breeding VIPs (or any breeding event, for that matter) is a matter of enormous luck. I can speak for myself when I say I've spent well over 1500 gems in all the VIP breedings combined, and only ever bred a Scarr, but got loads of parents back
As for the dungeons, here's my progress with a lvl 115 Scarr and lvl 100 Valgar( only one rune slot available), so I can't really say its not possible to progress well into the dungeon:

Incidentally, luckily I got the Valgar from 2 sets of cells from the Cells chest during the last VIP Breeding