@jarozeb What do you mean someone who didn't try?
Arena1 Pool: Then you get those that battled to get anywhere (me too on my first couple of months). They only go against people that didn't make it before or are too lazy to play the previous Master Arena. So the opponents would/should be fairly easy. ie They won't see 9 out of 10 opponents with 3-5star Kitsunes or 5star Kratus dragons.
"Someone who didn't try" was my version of "people that ... are too lazy to play the previous Master Arena".
NO ONE in any of the master arenas are anyone who didn't try, everyone fought to get there. Second is there any player who does not have to skip past opponents at least once? For me, I have to skip several times a season, most times at least once a fighting set.
I have to skip more then once in a fighting set. Most of the time I skip one or two times for every fight I take on, because my dragons are quite weak.
And even being a high level player with many dragons that still does not mean I have an easy time of it. I know that based on my gaming strategy, me not being a primary fighter, I do not have many high leveled fighters and of the ones that are empowered they are not leveled up to their full potential.
Same with me. Although I have a few 3-star L-dragons. None is leveled higher than 35.
So should I claim unfairness based on this fact? If there is one thing we all agree on it is the fact that the current matchmaking does not take into account enough factors to pair us up to the best advantage.
I think, the current matchmaking takes the most important factor into account: Trophies.
If someone is winning a lot, he/she will have a lot of trophies and he/she will be paired with other players with a lot of trophies. So, he/she will be paired with other players that win a lot.
Honestly when I think about it, if they are putting the high achievers in arena three at the start of a season than those players who start in arena two or one should not be facing them because that group will have been fighting and are higher up in the arena, so you should be facing those that are fighting at the same pace as you. And sorry but I do not think there are many if any players who start the season at arena 3 and are not fighting their way up. So I do not think they are sitting there waiting for players like you to show up.
But this is exactly what happens. Someone with the same fighting pace as me has a similar number of trophies as I have. And I have not yet seen an opponent with +1000 trophies. As I said, most are round about 50-100 trophies above me.
In the current Dark Master Arena each of the top 10 players made more trophies in the first 8 hours as I make in a whole season. I will never be matched against one of them.
I don't see a reason to alter the matchmaking.
i really think you've basically nailed a better matching criteria.
to recap: Arena rules for better matching purposes can incorporate EMPOWERMENT rules.
Ex: Only 1-star = arena 1; 1-star to 3-stars = arena 2.
I am not convinced yet. It is not all about stars.
What about levels?
What about rarity?
I was trying to say everyone starts at 10000 trophies, ie fighting with non Herioc dragons.
Arena2 Pool: Then you have myself which only reached Arena2.
I won't ever see Jarozeb or Nynaevelen as they are in a elite pool of players, ...
^Regarding my last comment. Jarozeb and Nynaevelen will probably be going against those 3-5star Kitsunes or 5star Kratus dragons if they don't already own their own.
Ok, I see. Everybody will be fighting their way from Master I to III but with a different group (pool) of opponents chosen by their effort in the last season.
I am not sure, if this is fair.
Just because someone tried harder he/she should not be grouped with stronger players.
I have to skip all the 5-star Kratus-Players.
My best dragons are a few level 40 1-star H-dragons . I have some level 35 2- oder 3-star L-dragons. That's it.
If I would be in a pool with only elite players with level 55 3-star H-dragons or more, I would stay in Master Arena I forever and not even get an arena chest. I would be punished for reaching Master III and someone who didn't even try would be rewarded.
A more advanced version is to break it into even smaller pools, ie each 100trophies, 10k to 10.1k, 10.1k to 10.2k etc.
I am confused by your suggestion, after all this is already in place. Those in arena 3 should only be facing the people in arena 3. Although there has always been a rule that you could face anyone +/- 1000 trophies so there is a possibility at the beginning of the season you could be facing those in arena 2 who have not moved yet.
I am confused, too.
My arena opponents are always players 50-100 trophies above me.
In this very moment I have 12104 trophies and my opponent has 12181.
After the fight, I now have 12121 and the new opponent 12199, first skip with gold 12198, second skip with food 12197.
I don't think, that we need to break it down in to even smaller pools.
I usually wait a day before I start fighting to avoid all the top players with their Level 70 five stars dragons.
And for all the other players who are too strong for me, there is still the possibility to skip.
I was reset to 12,000 and now I don't feel a need to fight except for the arena chest. I'll get the orbs, tokens and food anyway.
The Dark Master Arena Season is boring now.
In Master III only my H-Dragons fight. All my L-Dragons are almost worthless. And this is really sad.
The fights in Master I and II with their special rules shuffle your usual fighting teams and that is insteresting.
I had a hard time getting to Fire Master Arena III.
Usually I reach Master Arena III 3 to 4 days before the end of the season. Fire was harder for me, because of all the high level Kitsune and the fact that most of my fighters have war element. But I managed to get there on the last day. And I liked that challenge.
So, I hope it was a 'bug' to not reset everyone to 10,000.
Thanks Jarozeb for suggesting strategy for lap 19. I just started it now and was curious. What is the most effiecient use of gems on lap 19? Its basically 18:45h of waiting time.
Sorry, I saw this post a bit late. I guess you are almost through lap 19 by now.
I played node 1 and 2 without gems or spins (~4:15 hours).
I finished the feeding in node 3 and did 5 fights (~5:20 hours). Then I took my free spin and unfortunately two paid spin to finish the fights.
I had prepared the leagues fights in node 4, so I could do 6 of them and only had to pay for two (~0:10 hours) .
At node 5 I started with a paid spin, got a lucky +5 and could do the last 6 breedings as usual (~0:30 hours).
@deadbull Same here. The Moonlight Dragon was not worth it and the Betrayers stats doesn't look good either. But...
But nowadays there are the two quests after the race to get your new heroic dragon a star or two.
To get the first star we have to feed the L and E dragon from the race to level 30. So if the Betrayer is level 30 already, why not empower him. And I don't get to many L dragons with two stars, so why not the Betrayer.
So I got the 200 orbs in lap 20. I took me 62 gems to speed things up (1 free spin, 3 paid spins, 2 gems for league fights). And I think it is ok. Not great, but ok.
I don't like the new look either.
You are right. It looks like a big robot face.
And I think that the angle of the island is different than the angle of the other islands. It is tilted a bit more.
I very much hope, that SP will change it again.
But worst thing is:
The alliance chests are new, too! Instead of orbs we get food now. A ridiculously small amount of food.
I was not done collecting the orbs. I still need orbs for the two legendary dragons. How am I supposed to get them now?
Thank you very much for the map.
I am going for the Hatchling Dragon. I have the Colorful Dragon already.
BTW: It is possible to get Hatchling Dragon and all 8 Easter Baskets f2p.
I don't know if there is a cheaper way, but i found one for 6225 coins.
@jarozeb almost 24 hours later and I am still on this lap with 10 hours to wait to finish the last node so for me, no he is not worth spending to rush through this lap.
Edit: just got a complete mission on my second free spin of this lap, so no more 10 hours to wait but still only 40 orbs.
I guess I am stupid, but I did #19 in time.
I took my free spin for the fights after I was done with feeding. I got lucky with +5, so I had to buy only the last fight with 3 gems. I always buy the last fight, because of the long wait time. So everything was fine.
I could do 5 of the 8 league fights and bought the last three, another 5 gems. Ok.
So far so good.
11 (pool 6) eggs to hatch with no time left to refill the pool... now my pain began... 20 for the first spin +1 ... 20 for another spin +2 ... and 19 gems to buy the last two missing items.
I know you said, the moonlight dragon isn't worth it, but I couldn't stop...
[...] And of course my timed lap for #19 came right before bedtime but this time I missed it so once i finish only 40 Moonlight orbs for me. Too bad because I would have liked to empower him another level.
I am about to start my timed lap for #19 in 20 minutes.
Is the Moonlight Dragon really worth it?
It has got only 3 elements and it looks like its legend element has a strength of only 650 when trained. Is it true?
This is so weak, it is almost as if it had only two elements. So it isn't any better as a Pure Dark Dragon, is he?
@bettina-löffler Hi, I finished lap 15 but didn't get the high reborn dragon. Do I get it after this events finished ?
Yes, you will get the heroic dragon after the race and only one.
With finishing lap 15 you "just" ensure that you get the heroic dragon even if you don't win the race.
I am in lap 16 right now.
My personal favrourite reward coming up after lap 17: the 6000 tokens.
I usually stop the race after finishing lap 17, saving my resources.
But he Moonlight Dragon is looking nice. Is it worth it going to lap 20 to get 200 orbs?
Does anyone here have it already and can confirm its trained attack strengths? Searching on the well known internet sides gave me quite different results.
@jgb Ancient world elements already have no weakness nor resistance
True, but (in so far as what I've faced, at least), they don't have powerhouse dragons.
They have the Ultimate Dragon! My favourite. I would call him powerhouse.
I would like to see see weakness/double damage rules for the old world powers, too. Right now, if you have a dragon with an old world element on 2nd, 3rd or 4th position, it is completely useless.
wind is weak to itself.
I did not realize this. I withdraw my objection.
Altough wind was annonced to be weak to wind, it is not.
I have encountered only few wind dragons in the arena, but I have never had double damage against them with my own wind dragons.
@jarozeb I’m pretty sure it caps at level 30 and only increases in level after obtaining orbs from each dragon, which is every 2 levels. Same pattern as the high cryogenic quests a month ago.
Michael is correct, I tested it in AP mode. And with that said I am stopping on the second one at this last node, 35 is as far as I want to level Charging since I know he is not a dragon I would use often as a fighter.
Thank you very much, Nynaevelan and Michael.
Level 30 was the maximum I could afford to feed them right know. Therefor, I got the 120 orbs for the H dragon and I am empowering him at the moment. I had to spend only round about 70 gems to get the orbs. That is quite ok, I think.
BTW: I am in lap 17 node 5 now and very eager to get the 6000 tokens. But, I guess that will be my last round.
Thank you for the answers, everyone.
Yes, I would like to do only the first one.
Heroic Combat II starts with level 30, so I have high hopes, Heroic Combat I ends with 30.
But, I am going to fight stage 5 in a couple of minutes and I already need level 23 dragons. If the quest keeps increasing the requirements (2 levels per stage), the last fight would need level 35. That is a lot. Especially, because I don't want to use Dark Commander or Charge as arena fighters.
my runner's island has disappeared! before that the game kept resetting whenever i filled the 10/10 gold task and collected the stamps. after each restart the task was back at 0/10 and now the island is gone altogether! what's going on?
The game always crashed when I got the 10/10 gold. Tried it 5 or 6 times
Now the island is gone.
I hope this topic is right in the General Discussion.
I always like to visit other players. Sometimes they have nice decorations or special habitats.
Now, I found this:
What is it?
It looks like an extra island for fairies, but it is not even on the islands grid, but on its corner.
Is this a decoration or something else?
Best regards, Jarozeb
I have been reset to zero pin wheels, too.
I had round about 700 already. I even collected the first egg and it is currently in the hatchery.
I have already contacted support. But, does anyone know if SP is working on a fix? I would like to get my pin wheels back or the flight stamps I used to do it.
I don't need the first dragon several times. I would like to collect the other dragons as well.
Collecting an item resets the counter back to zero? That is not cool. And indeed this is a completly new information for me, although I have read alot of advices in the internet and in this forum.
So, do understand it right?
1st item collected at 0:40, counter starts.
2nd item collected at 0:55, counter had 15 min already and was reset to 0.
3rd item collected at 1:06, counter had 11 min and was reset to 0 again.
4th item collected at 1:08, counter had 2 min and was reset to 0 again.
5th item collected at 7:37, pool was replenished with 2 items, the conter was at 2 h 5 min and was reset t 0? Oh my...
6 th item collected at 7:42, counter had 5 min again and was reset to 0 again.
So I could collect the 7th item at 9:56.
In the meantime the item really came. It was 9:59.
Therefore, your answer really fits with my result. Thank you very much.
I have some item collecting problems here.
I am at lap 9 node 5. We need to breed 7 dragons, pool is 4, wait is 2 h 12 min each, so 6 h 36 min total.
I am breeding terra and flame dragons of course.
I got the first item at 0:40 tonight, the second at 0:55, third at 1:06 and the forth at 1:08 (CET).
I startet breeding again this morning and got the 5th item at 7:37 and the 6th at 7:42.
Now I am stuck at the 7th item. I am trying for almost 2 h straight now, but I don't get the last item.
Does the pool start to refill with the first item collected or when the pool is completly empty? Anyhow in both cases the pool should have been full long ago, at eiher 7:16 or 7:44.
I had the same thing with gold (lap 4 node 4) and food even twice (lap 6 node 3 and lap 7 node 3). It was always the last item not coming, even though the pool should have been full again. In these three cases the last item showed up araound 1 h late. But now with breeding it is already 2 h and there is still nothing.
Did anyone experience the same issue?
Am I doing anything wrong?
Do we keep the relentless food storage as a decoration after we received the 75k food?
You can also sell it. Your choice.
No, no. I would like to keep it.
I just don't know if I should contact support to get the 75k food?
Does is vanish after we got the food or does is stay as a decoration?